ISO Six Sigma Certification Standards?

They currently have a draft that I looked at not long ago.
Not much meat to it.
It looks like another income generator for the audit groups.

@Value-Train Why would any one care?

Whilst the Six Sigma Standards may not be much use to collectors of belts, badges, and other impressive stuff, there are two ISO technical reports on measurement systems analysis, by the Applications of statistical and related techniques for the implemetation of Six Sigma subcommittee SC7, which may be of use to people who do things. These are:
ISO/TR 14468: Selected illustrations of attribute agreement analysis

ISO/TR 12888: Selected illustrations of gauge repeatability and reproducibility studies

Both documents contain worked examples in both MINITAB and JMP

@Robert-Jackson There is a long leap from my comment concerning ISO to no standards. Near as I can tell there are more people creating standards than just ISO. Now when I look at the range of quality that is available from ISO certified companies it has to tell that there is no correlation between ISO cerification and quality.

Somewhere we have this mental thing going on that says a standard assures consistency. That is nonsense. Lets look at the range of skills in doctors. They all have degrees and they have all kinds of certifications so why aren’t they all like little clones. Attorneys some thing. All have a college degree and all pas a bar exam – even within a state. If they were all the same why would we have the issue we have in courts where one attorney tells their client one thing, they do it, get taken to court and get their butt kicked in front of a judge. Why didn’t all those standards they were trained and tested to create a consistency that prevented different interpretations rather than have to go to court to figure it out?

Superficially your point sounds good but in all practicality the standard is there to allow people to control for reasons other than consistency and that is typically profit. At this point I would rather see the market sort it out by reputation than allow someone to step in and pretend to sort it all out for the good of mankind when in fact they are there for no other reason than money.

@Robert-Jackson “If fact if you and Gary took a moment to consider the issue rather than simply lashing out at everybody…………..” Not sure you want to continue to speak to me in that condescending manner or you will find this conversation going a lot of places that will be very uncomfortable for you.

You chose to make this about having standards. My initial response was to a question that was specific to ISO.

>> In full disclosure, what was the real reason for your question?

Geesh guys, it’s not a conspiracy, just a simple question! I asked because someone told me that ISO had new Six Sigma certifications standards and I wanted to know if it’s true and if so where I can find them. I’m in the field and like to know what’s going on. I couldn’t find them with a simple search and figured people here would know immediately. I’m aware of about four groups trying to establish standards. I don’t think much of certifications either but they are a fact of life now like it or not. IMO, real certification standards will never happen. The horses left the barn about 20 years ago and they aren’t going to be rounded up by any new standards body that requires thousands of training groups, schools and consultants to all change the way they do business. As in anything, true talent will be obvious very soon when you start working with people regardless of their degrees or certifications.

@Robert-Jackson

Discussions are always good….even if there’s disagreement. Banter is desirable.