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  • #139037

    Codeone
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    Common sense

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    #139006

    Codeone
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    Gary,
    Thank you for the lightening fast response. The company is Chapter 11 and I am out there consulting on why not to use Six Sigma.

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    #71859

    Codeone
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    Well, I think we all know how to classify you. A sycophant no doubt.
    No, you are wrong on all counts. I have been promoted over 12 times in my career. I have even spent a stint running a large part of our business overseas, where I lived.
    All I am trying to say is that if your only tool is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a nail. The statistics are easy. I used most of them 20 years ago when I was a lowly industrial engineer.
    I have been a code one or two at the largest multinational company in the world for over 30 years. But I cannot roll over and play dead when organizations are embracing this stuff like a “magic bullet” thinking it will replace experience, common sense and business smarts. And this is exactly where it is going.
    What I have found is that most of the people that embrace this at my company are in fact short time folks with no real success behind them. Those with any tenure did hide in the organization until this process came along. Now they can sit in a cubicle and make charts and attend conference calls and not really have to produce anything. 90 % of the “Projects” that these folks do could have been done in one-fourth the time and without dragging 40 other people into the thing. And 90% of those are no longer in place six month later. Why? They were done for all the wrong reasons. It is a dog and pony show. Projects are selected and completed in order to meet the goals of the company. You have to be a “green belt”, or a “Black Belt” or a “Master Black Belt” in order not only to keep your job, but to ever hope to have a promotion. And now that it is a business initiative, no one in upper management will tell the emperor that he has no clothes. We find ourselves in the business of managing careers, not the business and this process is the perfect tool. By embracing it, you get to appear that you are a “team player” while not really doing anything constructive for the business. This process does have its place. In a DFSS, if a company does not already have a good product introduction plan, this will work. And for everyone else, its like the song says, its full of “pretty pretty boys, we call men”.

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    #71720

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    I guess it kind of makes me mad that all hype at GE is “this is customer focused”.ย  when in fact, 90% of all of this is internally focused.ย  One division I know of even went to far as to come up with a quicksigma idea.ย  basically, they wrote things up on an excel spread sheet and sent it in to get six sigma credit at corporate.ย  This is what always happens.ย  The Bureaucracy takes over.ย  The organization is chock full of people that have never produced a good or a service, but they can make charts and know how to manage up.ย  In my division, the optics are of course very much in play.ย  but we have some of the more aggressive managers pushing the employees to produce extra in the guise of doing a six sigma project.ย  In all my years of experience with this process, I have never seen six sigma produce anything.ย  basically, someone has an idea and (of course anyone that has been around for a while can do most of these things as second nature) and they put the project in place.ย  but in order to get the six sigma credit, they spend many many man yours trying to back fill the six sigma template so they can in fact get the credit.ย  like one of the “master black belts” told me one time, if it did not happen in six sigma, it didn’t happen.ย  it is truely aย  joke.

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    #71685

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    You hit the nail on the head.ย  it is exactly because of the bureaucracy that 6 sigma is choosen.ย  It is a great place for people to hid.ย  One other benifit is, you can “in the name of 6 sigma” drive already overworked employees into giving more.ย  for instance, the poster boy for 6 sigma who I work for has dictated that all managers have to do a 6 sigma project IN ADDITION to their normal job.ย  and they have big bucks expectations.ย  So, in the guise of driving this down the organization, they are really using it to drive revenue up and cost down.ย  so instead of it being a tool to use when you have something to fix, it is no more than another tool for driving employees.ย  so you see, you have to understand what is really behind this program.ย  there are two main points.
    1.ย  make stock holders and analysis think there is something magic about the process that just makes your company so much better than it really is.
    2.ย  you can use the program to drive your employees, in the name of “learning more about 6 sigma” to work longer hours and produce more results.
    so, bottom line is, don’t get hung up on which is better for your organization or future.ย  6 sigma offers too many opportunities for pulling the wool and abusing your employees.

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    #71606

    Codeone
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    I think everyone is missing the point. Life will not change no matter if we have six sigma or not. The process was always there. you have to recognize that our world has always been molded by the sycophants. no matter what the flavor of the day is, there are always a group of people ready to tie their horse to the wagon and ride it as long as it will go.
    Some good advice is, just continue to do projects, play the six sigma game and in time this fad, like all others will be replaced by the technique of the day. If you can point to six sigma in your history, then you will show that you can gloom onto the latest fads and be a “team player”. the other sycophants will recognize this and find you a place.

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    #71605

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    Not a problem. All this six sigma is is a very time consuming, structured way to do industrial engeering projects. In the old days, you see something that stick out (experience is what gives your the ability to do this) and you applied what ever tools were necessary to define the problem and fix it.
    With six sigma, you will find the chart making and processes will be the difficult part. case in point. I did a project, after starting a new job, on a process that I saw the day I walked in as being totally messed up. Project was to design two pieces of equipment to replace manual process that had been done exactly the same way for years. I ran the numbers, saw that there was over $30,000 in labor savings, designed the equipment and had it installed in three weeks. It took an additional six months to get through all of the bull required to make it a formal six sigma project. So, best advice. tollerance for wasting time. be sure you are a power point chart making champ. and be able to say things like “P95” and you will do well with little or no formal training in this stuff. it is all hype.

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    #71598

    Codeone
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    Not an A player.ย  give me a break.ย  I have been a code one or two my entire life with GE.ย  And from your answer, It is obvisous that I probably have more years with GE than you do on the planet.ย 
    The major difference between us “Old timers” that do not embrase sick sigma is we have actually delivered a good or a service somewhere along the way.ย  I can use past experience, common sense or sense of smell and come up with a solution to a problem, as good or better, than one that has to go through all of the total bull crap involved in the six sigma approach.ย  the major problem is most of the old folks have gotten fed up with all of the sycophants running around like the eunichs in the old kingdoms, not smart enough to know the truth, but selfish enough to gloom on to anything that gets them in the promotion scheem.ย  Six sigma is a joke.ย  Motorola found out.ย  cost them big time.ย  I just hope someone comes along with enough clout to finally say, “this is stupid”.ย  but probably not.ย 

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