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Oh, OK JH, see ya around.

I was leaning that way Stevo but there’s a lot to think about to come to that conclusion. I was thinking about posting a question to the Forum something like – “What Six Sgima is? What it do for me? How?”
Then I could decide after I got feedback.

So, $15K more annually for being certified.
Let’s see should I pay $99 to Stan or say, $25K to a traditional training firm like, say, Global Productivity Solutions. Keeping in mind the great guru Carnell said it doesn’t matter what happens in the classroom, you learn on the floor anyway…
Hhmmm, which way should I go? Hhmmm….

Well there you go – clear now!

And what do you charge Gary? Or is there no recent data?

SigmaJoe’s stated objective is to compare the compensation levels of those certified in SS to those not certified in SS. Since there is no standard for certification, his measurement system is flawed since there is no clear line as to who is certifed and who is not. His measurements are inaccurate from the start because there is no means of being…[Read more]

SJ, Darth’s input is good, as usual. However, recognize the iSS comp survey has nothing to do with certified or not; what ever that means. Do you understand my point? Cert. vs non-cert. is not a viable basis since you have no standard to judge against.

You have an MSA problem at the get-go. Since there3 is no standard for ceertification you cannot establish who really is and who really isn’t certified. Therefore, regardless of the compensation info you may be able to gather it cannot be relevantly seperated into proper categories – because you don’t know for certain who belongs in which…[Read more]

Yeah, he yogas and he writes. I know him too; but I’m not Redinius. Last I knew Redinius had left the building…the SS building that is.

No problem, it’s a compliment in many ways.

Tantric, good guess and I see why you would make that leap…however, untrue.

Actually Deming is dead so you may not care to follow him just yet… although you would be well advised to follow some of his teachings.

Yes, what Chad said plus they will be one more than Five Sigma. And we all know what that means!

Shim, it’s my opinion there is no reasonable method to put a metric to this. LSS projects vary immensely in scope, companies vary in their breadth of skill sets (impacts teaming abilities) and are further impacted by geography. Another variable is the amount of training an MBB is doing. So, the only real answer is “It depends.”

Wow HB, I am very appreciative of that. Someone finally admitted they made a mistake rather than throwing every smoke screen they could think of up to hide an error. How refreshing.

While perhaps interesting HB, this doesn’t provide an answer to the poster’s question.

It’s probably in Marketing since that’s his greatest contribution to SS.

hb, I did not miss Mike’s point. In fact, for the most part I agree with him.
But he said “what happens in the classroom doesn’t matter”. I challenged only that statement. That part of what he said is incorrect. That’s all I’m trying to say. Amazing.
Tell me, please, how a deployment can be successful if the belts do not have skills to implement…[Read more]

OK, fair enough. I’ve done both contract and internal, for my employer, training. More at the deployment level than belt level. And my belt training experience has been YB; no BB or GB.
Having been far more on the point for deployment mngt than classroom training I know exactly what Mike is saying; and, other than the “it doesn’t matter what…[Read more]

Thank you Outlier. Finally someone stepped up with a reasonable statement rather than blindly defending the brotherhood.
In fact, Mike’s point is absolutely contrary to all that his fellow brothers beat the heck out of here – online training is useless, that OSSS stuff is crap, Villinova is a diploma mill…then Mike says what happens in the…[Read more]