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    Jack Welch
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    “If there is a Six Sigma zealot, Harry’s the guy.”
    Jack Welch

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    #109883

    Jack Welch
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    Flounder,
     
    “How is it then, with so many “well educated and experienced” posters the message is often clouded with insults and credibility challenges? Facts. Now there’s the lead by example style we need to demonstrate!”
     
    I agree with you 100%.   A good place to learn is a much better place to learn when posters and respondents respect each other’s right to express and share perspective, opinion and knowledge.
     
    I also agree with you regarding exercising rigorous attorney selection.
     Jack Welch

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    #109842

    Jack Welch
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    Flounder,
     
    Ever consider that some of us might be well educated and experienced and like to give back a little in an effort to advance our chosen field?    Some of the consultants like Mike are the real deal.   But, then again, when giving back with altruistic intent, if some dufus begins to sling mud around it’s fun to knead and wad it into fun shapes and poke him or her with it.    You have to admit the forum has some contributors and some whiners and squealers.    Post with insight and humor and you might change your mind about who contributes.  See, even your chosen ID has humor in it, Flounder, that’s a cute little self-effacing bottom dweller and shows that while you are willing to step up and make a point that you don’t take yourself so seriously that you can’t engage in a little good natured give and take.
     Jack Welch   

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    #77971

    Jack Welch
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    YOU do not define quality………………..
    Your CUSTOMER does  !!!

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    #76066

    Jack Welch
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    Then there is the old failure, there was recently a long thread about BB having no place to rotate into once their assignment ends.  Many voiced an opinion it was time to go job searching outside their company….what a waste!
    I don’t see the roation thing as a big buy-in, I see it always as a question the bb has to be carrying around in the back of his head for 2 years..”Do I have a job when I am done?”

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    #75966

    Jack Welch
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    Sorry Mike,
    I am sure there are old bridges to build back up, or leave burned down..whatever works for you folks!   Actually, I hold a bridge rebuilding philosophy myself.
     

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    #75959

    Jack Welch
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    I been reading this thread,.,,,,,,,….and think of it, some people call me a Disturbed Person…… Lighten up boys and girls!

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    #75899

    Jack Welch
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    Well said….there is a lot to be learned in these threads.  The normally intelligent (is that how you spell it?)  people take what value they can from different postings.  Some people don’t ever read mine because most times they are usless. But thats the beauty of having a head on your shoulders; you can make and choose thoughts you believe in and know a reasonable reply from one of mine or one of the other idiots who post here.  Without a little humor and diversion even 6S would be boring as hell! 
    Did i say that?
    Jack Welch..not the real one again!

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    #75874

    Jack Welch
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    I hope you all know when I reply to threads I’m not the real Jack Welch.  I never want to infer another person’s opinion. 
    Thanks,
    Jack Welch

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    #75481

    Jack Welch
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    Rewards for a Blackbelt? In the company where I work we call it a job with decent benefits.  Why should a BB get more than that, he’s sure not working harder than anyone else?  They already get to walk around the shop 1/2 the day shooting the bull with their buddies. You know, sort of acting like consultants.
    Later!  And Go Red Sox..and way to go Celtics!  And don’t forget about the World Champion Pats! 

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    #75476

    Jack Welch
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    $45 million saved?  I hoped they fired the CEO for running with so much slop in the past! $45 Million…gesh…………………
     

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    #59781

    Jack Welch
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    Why not just go to only a competent surgeon.   Remember in a graduating class of 150 doctors you call to top graduate doctor, and you call the 150th graduate doctor too. 
    “Go Red Sox!”
    Jack W.

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    #75370

    Jack Welch
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    Why not just go to only a competent surgeon.   Remember in a graduating class of 150 doctors you call to top graduate doctor, and you call the 150th graduate doctor too. 
    “Go Red Sox!”
    Jack W.

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    #75262

    Jack Welch
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    How the heck does dumba** thread apply to 6S?  Does this mean if I have a problem in the shop and I have three ideas to fix the problem and one of the ideas is proven wrong by my BB.  That I should switch my play of action to the one I didn’t choose to have a better chance of solving my problems.  I think Ask Merrlin has the right idea…you guys need to do something productive…I’m going back to work and fix something!
    Later, Jack
    And as Billybob says, “Go Red Sox!”

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    #74964

    Jack Welch
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    I work in an environment where it’s MBP (management by preception).  The only wrong things you can do are those things that are precieved to be wrong…no matter how much sence they made.
    I have been reviewed by my boss’s boss..2 level higher. I haven’t been in his office 10 minutes in the last year.  When I mentioned that it was sort of Mangement By Preception to the HR department they even backed it up by saying all he had to do was talk to my boss and peers and he was able to have a good understanding of my work.
    Yikes!

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    #74957

    Jack Welch
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    I think we work in the same place.  I see it as heavy duty egos at work  that don’t want the help. Because the kingdom these managers created, or had created for them, would collapse if someone came into their area and made something better for them.   If they or their team can’t take credit for any improvement then its nothing they are interested in.

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    #74895

    Jack Welch
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    Forget it! I’m taking the train; derailments or not!
    Jack

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    #74894

    Jack Welch
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    My friend,
    Though it is 2002 there are still many companies that work this way.  I’m sure these companies are no where as successful as they could be.  Think of the cold water that attitude throws into the face of people who have better ideas of way of doing things. 
    Of course I was being cynical, but its only amusing because some people still believe thats the way to “drive” a business.  It’s actually probably the way to “drive a business out of business!” 
    Have a great weekend everyone!

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    #74873

    Jack Welch
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    Message parlor!……you hiring?

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    #74871

    Jack Welch
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    Tell them they have a job and a weekly paycheck that hasn’t been reduced yet..and get back to work saving me more money!
    Jack

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    #74855

    Jack Welch
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    Loks good to me….but i haven’t a clue if thats rght!

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    #74846

    Jack Welch
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    You will give the answer (with solution) after a few days won’t you?
     

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    #74824

    Jack Welch
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    Boy, you don’t know the can of worms you opened up with that question.  Perhaps you should have read some of the other threads details first.
     

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    #74791

    Jack Welch
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    You mean Mighty Mouse wasn’t it’s founder.  I guess anyone who can take credit for being the founder will.  I just read a pretty good history in a near by thread that had me impressed. But I think when its all said and done we’ll find a lot of different peoples fingerprints in the 6S evidence to give credit to for 6S’s eveolution, lots of people contributing different materials. 

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    #74790

    Jack Welch
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    Well, its like I told the ex-wife..”it only matters what you, the kids and I know as the truth and you can tell the world differently because I don’t care. 
    Like your history..you were there, you know it as you remember best so skip the rest of them.
    I don’t know if there’s a 6S message in this message..but a history is lost unless its passed on. 

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    #74782

    Jack Welch
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    I have to say, I found that history very interesting and very impressive. Thanks for sharing the details.
     

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    #74732

    Jack Welch
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    If I had a point……I’d offer it!

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    #74731

    Jack Welch
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    And you large brain consultants won’t be able to follow them?  I’m only kidding, but I’m glad you added to the count with IV.  That must mean Question V is next.

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    #74722

    Jack Welch
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    I still maintain 6S consulting is a cottage industry.  Doesn’t seem any one has opposed this opinion.  But maybe its me the source making the statement as I know I’ve tossed a few curveballs here and there.  And one more thing, “GO RED SOX!!”

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    #74625

    Jack Welch
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    Based upon the thread did anyone read the classifies over the week end to look for a new job?  Did anyone get any good job offers lately due to being a 6S guru or supporter?

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    #74584

    Jack Welch
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    I am sure that by many of my post you know I am a simple person.  I try to reason out problems and I have one I can’t just understand in my soft mellon brain so I would appreciate your input.
    I have read that BBs are redeployed after a 2 years stint, or in some cases thay have to go find jobs someplace else.  If problems keep reoccuring and S6 statical tools are used to solve the new problems businesses have why rotate people in and out.  You don’t need fresh people to solve new problems, just new problems to be solved by the old people using tried and true statical measurements.  If you have BBs in your organization then why make it a costly requirement to have all manager’s trained…you only need their buy-in of 6S.
    Why not a 4 or 6 year term or more as a BB as a cost savings?  I have to swear that the 2 year BB rotataion stuff is a the basics of  the 6S consulting cottage industry, in other words..its a moneymaker for fat cat consultants.  

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    #74512

    Jack Welch
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    You all know I like to have fun, but I “typically” do not direct it to individual people unless they are jerks.  I’m more interested in trashing management and their supporters in revolt to my old union days.  This has turned out to be a good site to bash bosses when you can’t bash your ownBut my point is; this poor guy’s from india (I know i wrote it with a lowercase i) and he’s asking for help with 6S and not grammar so give him a break! 

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    #74506

    Jack Welch
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    I see the job rotation is possible/easier when you work for a large organization like GE, many opening and many opportunties.  But a lot of us (including lower rank belts) work in smaller companies where they are lucky to even get their old jobs back since they were filled by others.  And how about lower belts, there’s no escape for getting out of a green belt role; we become the droans of the black belt bee colony..do this, do that, do this, do that.I can become a BB but I  keep turning the “fine opportunity” down, but I like my job.  I can even do most BB tasks and do so as i need to make things happen.  But I am not giving up a job I like to put a line on my resume, and then woner where I am going to go when my assignment is done when i am doing the job for them anyway and they know it.   I guess my boss can’t take credit for my BB work unless I am a BB.  As I always say…got to love accounting practices..at least in my company.  I have to stop being so open, my boss and co-workers might recognize me! Jack

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    #74500

    Jack Welch
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    There is my point exactly, you mention driving six sigma from the top down.  Drive it home brother!  Sign me up for a program that screams FAILURE!
    Jack

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    #56181

    Jack Welch
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    I’m not sure exactly, but I think the company that developed the Leaning Tower of Pisa was involved from the start.
    Jack

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    #74495

    Jack Welch
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    I’m not sure exactly, but I think the company that developed the Leaning Tower of Pisa was involved from the start.
    Jack

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    #74493

    Jack Welch
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    OLVJ,
    I am not the “real” Jack Welch.  Though my own personal thoughts were sincere.
    By the way, I have a bridge for sale….
     
    Jack

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    #74483

    Jack Welch
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    Hey don’t give me to much credit, though its appreciated.   And you guys know I’m not the real GE Jack Welch don’t you? 

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    #74447

    Jack Welch
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    I usually have a lot of fun with people here, in good nature to break up the seriousness of people that are to serious about things they think they can control but really can’t.
    I even see six sigma as a good tool.  But I consider it a last line tool after you get Lean, after you cherry picked the fast and easy lean and 5S savings that quickly hit the bottom line with out to much effort.  Listen to your line workers they know where the probems are and can find you all sorts of waste to eliminate.
    Even run 6S in tandum on issues your line workers can’t control….it’s only my sad-assed opinion.  Most will see this as foolish I guess, but I rather take what i can get for free before I pay $10,000s for a program that I need specail people to run.  OK folks I opened myself to your shots,,,,have fun!

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    #74446

    Jack Welch
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    Welcome to the world of six sigma!

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    #74433

    Jack Welch
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    I always thought the terms black, green, an yellow belts were kind of violent and scary sounding like someone you wouldn’t want to approach or ask for help.
    May be we should call the BB’s – Moe’s
    the green belts – Larry’s
    And the yellow belts – Curly’s
    and if you get stuck for a term for the master black belts; well there’s always – Shemp’s
    Any soft saving here that I can’t sell to my customer or can’t give to my shareholders?

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    #74412

    Jack Welch
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    Stan, quick sell off the GE stock before you lose any more!  All I do is read the newspapers and watch the stockmarket..its all black and white to touch, feel and see unlike those funny soft saving
    You GE-er!
     
    Jack W.

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    #74382

    Jack Welch
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    Stan, get your head out of the sand!  GE is a profit’s leader?  Why are investors bailing out of GE stock as it share price pluments?  Why is the SEC looking at questioning GE’s accounting practices? This same accounting team that is scamming investors and raising the eyebrows of the SEC is the same one that approves 6S projects.  Got to love those soft savings that reach the bottom line!

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    #74363

    Jack Welch
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    What does it have to do with 6S?   First Motorola hit the skids, then Enron, now GE accounting practices are being questioned.  Doesn’t the accountants have to sign off on 6S projects.  Bring on the soft savings boys and let the next generation worry about explaining them.   If nothing else you can always blame the bottom 10% you let go…………….got to love the GE way of life and its 6S marriage!

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    #74200

    Jack Welch
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    So that 1Million  PPM defects so far, and I do believe thats going to be the final score…whats the sigma level of that?
     

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    #74198

    Jack Welch
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    Did anyone actually get this sent to them?
     

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    #74053

    Jack Welch
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    I’d be interested in any stories detailing how we have back-engineered technology from crashed alien flying saucers.  Take me to your leader!

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    #73920

    Jack Welch
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    Yeah, don’t give intelligent people like me a foot in the door with foolish claims!   Even saying so, I do believe that good data is great for solving problems.  But we all need to be up-front, be honest, and tell what we really did and what we really achieved.  Smoke and mirrors only give people like me fuel to have fun with what should be a serious discussion.  I’m watching a great BB show where I work….its better than the Gong Show!
    So it isn’t really a $1M dollars a year?  Hmm.,.,…I’ll let this thread off easy.

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    #73896

    Jack Welch
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    Is that cement by the ton or truck load and how ofter cement is ordered?

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    #73891

    Jack Welch
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    2 cents of concrete?….got a spoon?

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    #73888

    Jack Welch
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    Use equal parts sand and hardener and only sell it by the cubic yard. You can either add water at the site or bring it premixed in a mixer-truck.
    jack

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    #73809

    Jack Welch
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    put it to music…
    You call it tomato I’ll call it tomato……
     

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    #73788

    Jack Welch
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    Never go straight for a woman….you’ll be doing dishes and vacuuming before you know it.   Imagined being married to a woman who understood six sigma.  Besides dealing with “feelings” every family decision would require a DMAIC workout.  Jeepers..just pass the jelly!

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    #73703

    Jack Welch
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    Thats what we expect from six sigma zealots…we ask for funny stories we get editorials.  Why can’t BB’s stick to the job at hand?
    Jack

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    #73687

    Jack Welch
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    I like a woman with spirt.,…do you have supper plans?
    Jack

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    #73624

    Jack Welch
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    Hello Trig,
    I like your honesty!   Finally someone who gives the whole six-sigma thing some credibility for what we all know it is.  And of course if you read the threads you can see none of the experts checked in over the weekend either!
    Jack

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    #73600

    Jack Welch
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    Three days and no replies to this thread.   Just change the names to protect the innocent and tell your stories.
    Jack

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    #73555

    Jack Welch
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    That’s right lets keep rotating people, just as they get a true understanding of how to apply the practice works lets move them out.  Come on guys…you all say a BB has 3-4 projects a year.  So a BB who completes 6-8 projects over 2 years, with a couple projects that failed is going to be rotated out back to the shop.  He’s just getting warmed up to knowing what works, we all know when he gets back to the shop he has to meet his new goals and doesn’t have the time to work on hugh projects.
    So whats gained…more training costs for consultants is all rotation buys.  They could be called Carpetbagers.

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    #73545

    Jack Welch
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    Times do change don’t they?  Got to love those cottage industries that creat the rules!

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    #73538

    Jack Welch
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    Bobby,
    Why do you think the blackbelt training industry says a blackbelt should only remain on the job for 2 years.  Every 2 years 33% on the BB workforce is new, the consultants have a perpeptual market for new trainees.  Why does a BB need to be rotated out after 2 yrs?  Do statistic change? Does variation change?  Looks like a good business plan for the black belt trainers.  
    It was probably one of consultant’s BB projects; How can we keep the market fresh?  Answer..recommend a 2 year service in the BB role then have to train someone to replace a person who is alrerady doing the job.   Weird…how many people take a job knowing its going to end?  What a sales pitch!
    What oes Homer Simpson say…DOOH! 

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    #73534

    Jack Welch
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    Funny thread, at least let us know how you fudged some data to save your skin.

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    #73519

    Jack Welch
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    Hey mate, isn’t it time for you to hit the pub?
    jack

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    #73517

    Jack Welch
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    What do i want?  Say nice job to me some time you snooty blackbelt,  or take me to supper and drinking with you on the clients expense, or share your fat-cat bonus with me.  I don’t want anything more than you got.
    Jack

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    #73494

    Jack Welch
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    I’m not POed..I get my best work done when they go home. 
    Still love you,
    Jack

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    #73492

    Jack Welch
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    Stacy,
    You are my kind of girl!  A great post!
    Jack

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    #73454

    Jack Welch
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    The lies I see are in my management.  No real savings are seen, its all soft.  If its soft it doesn’t exist.  I sure don’t want my paycheck in soft dollars or based on soft saving profits maybe you big time BB do, but then again I work for a living.  
    And like I said, were doing ok in our business..being saved by lean and 5S opportrunties taken, but 6S is becoming an face-saving problem…we got a nice soft return on our investments to show the stakeholders..whoopie.

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    #73453

    Jack Welch
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    I would recommend classes in commitment.  If you don’t have the total management commitment of 6S its going to fail.   Its harder than the 50/50 we all say marriage needs to succeed.  If you only work as hard as and have the same support you have in your marriage you’ll fail at Six Sigma.

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    #73451

    Jack Welch
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    Reposted to the end of the thread for everyone’s enjoyment
     
    I know what you mean.  We put 6S in our plant 5 months ago with the goal of certifying 3 BBs by April of this year.  Two part time ones, and one full time one.  There are no saving realized but some soft savings on their inital certifications.  When you ask them what the goal is they tell its Ceritfication so they can train green belts.  Its a joke here to us who understand lean and waste.  Yes I wan’t selected to become a BB and it hurt a little.  But after reading many threads I say “Thanks God I wasn’t choosen”  We wonder why Enrons happen, was there 6S involved?  Why does management try to fool the people who see through the game, that nothing has been saved? 
    So I’m taking the high road, I am supporting the BB candidates and their foolish lying games and enjoying know they know I see through it all. And if I  complaine I’ll get fired because the champion (the plant manager) is the head comedian in this show.
    But like Enron, our bottom line will show a not a true story.   If he can’t lie about it by number malnipulation he’ll steal saved dollars from the rest of us and report it as a 6S achievement on end of the years reports we don’t see…what else can he do if 6S isn’t going to give him any $s? 
    So as I live in a state that has little manufacturing don’t any of you experts tell me its time to quit and move unless you’re putting up the front money for me until i relocate.  We are saving dollars here, the business is successful and sound, lean and 5S work well.  Its just how savings are going to be reported.  LIES..6S is all lies as far as this man can see, our bottom line will be nagatively effected by the cost of 6S training not the opposite.

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