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January 4, 2004 at 1:01 pm #34210
Mohammed RafiParticipant@MohammedRafi Include @MohammedRafi in your post and this person will
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You all the there, can any body better explain me about the 450 RULE and also the differance between the “Pareto Principle” i.e 80/20 RULE?
Thanks in Advance
0January 4, 2004 at 7:39 pm #93946It´s a sort of second application of Pareto´s Principle on the 80% which is left on the results of the first instance.
That is, we´d expect that with a 20% of the 20% of the individuales (a 4% of the X´s) we could get an 80% of the 80% of the first results (Y expected = 64%), but since Pareto is not exactly the same in this new level, it amounted to just 50% in the results.
Some of this stuff has been experimented and explained by Jay Arthur, whom perhaps you could somehow get in touch with in the web.
I wonder if someone could give is better information about it.
Regards Ludwig0January 4, 2004 at 10:35 pm #93947Dear Mohammed , I´ve made some research on your theme. Go over the following in page 32 of “Arthur, Jay, The Small Business Guerrilla Guide to Six Sigma” (Statements within are interpretations regarding the original version) :
“USE THE 450 RULE. Even though every manager has heard the 8020 rule, they still try to use Six Sigma everywhere. But Six Sigma is like peanut butter – the wider you spread it, the thinner it gets. Remember that if you try to use Six Sigma everywhere, .”
“What if you could get over half of the “benefit” from Six Sigma by investing in just 4% of the business? You can ! Pareto´s 80/20 rule is a power law. Power laws aren´t linear, they grow by an order of magnitude. So, if you believe in Pareto´s Rule, you have to believe that it applies within the 20% : 4% of the business will cause 64% of the . Wherever I go, I find that four percent of the transactions cause over 50% of the . Four percent of Americans have over half the wealth. And so on.”
“The research into the diffusion of innovation shows that transformational change begins with less than five percent of the work force (4%). It also suggests that to accelerate the implementation of Six Sigma you will want to reduce the involved.”
“Rather than waste…your… on a widespread implementation, focus and achieve results in just a few key areas. Then like seeds in the wind, word of mouth will spread the change to a few neighbors, and before long, the entire company will have converted with minimal resistance and expense”.
Sincerely, I think the above lines carry lots of truth.
Regards. Ludwig.0January 5, 2004 at 6:11 am #93949
Mohammed RafiParticipant@MohammedRafi Include @MohammedRafi in your post and this person will
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I think the info. U provided is enough to get the concept if you can help me out of the Delima regarding the application of 450 Rule in our analysis.
1) Is it very much like 80/20 ?
2) Method of Analysis for the 450?
3) If Possible one example with the application of 450 Rule?
So kind if you can help me out,
regards
0January 5, 2004 at 6:35 am #93950Ludvig
I really appreciate your comprehensive explanation.I wish all others would do the same.Some of you experts (like you,Stan,Mickel,Ron,Anna and others) are trying their best to give an honest ,comprehensive answers.I hope We all will use your excellent answers as a “benchmarking model”,regards. MN0January 5, 2004 at 10:03 pm #93965Dear Mohammed:
(1) This Jay Arthur version has the same mechanism as the traditional Pareto Rule and
(2) Its method of analysis and interpretation is likewise similar.
(3) Let me send you a numerical table that you may convert into a Pareto Chart to better visualize it. It´s related with the cost of items handled in a refaction storehouse inventory in a company. Herein cost importance of the parts involved is considered as is the frequency Pareto fashion.
Ref ID Unit Consumption Tot.Cost % Acc. %
Cost (yearly) (yearly)
1 A 500 10 5000 27.04 27.04
2 B 290 10 2900 15.68 42.73
3 C 218 10 2180 11.79 54.52
4 D 90 20 1800 9.73 64.25
5 E 125 10 1250 6.76 71.01
6 F 90 10 900 4.87 75.88
7 G 22.5 40 900 4.87 80.75
8 H 54 10 540 2.92 83.67
9 I 36 10 360 1.95 85.61
10 J 18 20 360 1.95 87.56
11 K 14 2 0 280 1.51 89.08
12 L 20 10 200 1.08 90.16
13 – 40 M – AN 510 1,820 9.84 100.00
690 18,490 100.00
For simplicity, the detail is shown up to the 12th most costly part, leaving parts 13th to 40th summarized in the last line of the table. I´ll try to carry out a twostep analysis to see how well the 20/80 and 4/50 ratios are fulfilled.
(A) For the “traditional” Pareto Analysis (20 / 80 ), it´s seen that the 80% Y ordinate belongs to an X abscissa value between parts 6 and 7. By linear interpolation the found value was 6.85, which corresponds to a ratio of 6.85 / 40 = 17 % approximately. So traditional Pareto “rule” for this case is ( 17 / 80 ) against the expected ( 20 / 80).
(B) For the “new” Pareto Analysis (Jay Arthur´s) (4 / 50), it´s seen that the 50% Y ordinate belongs to a 2 < X < 3 abscissa value, which by interpolation happened to be 2.61, which corresponds to a ratio of 2.61 / 40 = 6.5% approximately. So, the Pareto ratio happens to be (6.5 / 50), instead of the expected (4/50).
PLUS : A little more sophisticated approach to this stuff, oriented to determination of the most significant items to pay attention to, would be the case of a frequency Pareto display in which its items A, B, C, etc., were themselves composed of subitems A1, A2,…Ana, B1, B2,……Bnb, C1, C2,….Cnc, etc.
Then we´d first identify in the general Pareto approach the items A, B, C…etc., corresponding to the 20 / 80 rule and then “decompose” these critical elements into their subelements by means of the secondary Pareto treatment so as to define the really, really, really important items to which close attention ought to be paid.
Hope the above might be helpful to you.
Regards Ludwig.0January 6, 2004 at 8:30 am #93971
Mannu TharejaParticipant@MannuThareja Include @MannuThareja in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Hi Ludwig,
Thanks for the excellent example.
I appreciate ur effort.
Regards,
Mannu0January 6, 2004 at 8:26 pm #93984… :) ….Ludwig
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