Any recommendation for On line Six-Sigma training ?
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November 5, 2004 at 3:16 pm #37457
Hi
I am going to be a black belt. I know most of the tools from my statistical background but needs to be updated in the philosophy and the managerial aspects.
Since my organisation doesnt want to devaluate the black belt title I have to have the formal training (I happen to agree with them). 4 weeks however is a lot to spend away from work when I know most of the curriculum.
An online course seems perfect since I can speed through the stuff I already know.
Until now I have considered
Arizona State Uni (Mikel Harry)
American Society For Quality (ASQ)
SixSigma.us (consultants)
Moresteam.com
Villanova University
I would very much appreciate some good advice from you on online training.
Kind Regards
Henrik0November 5, 2004 at 4:52 pm #110340
Heebeegeebee BBParticipant@Heebeegeebee-BBInclude @Heebeegeebee-BB in your post and this person will
be notified via email.I’ll Bring the popcorn…
-Heebee0November 5, 2004 at 5:04 pm #110341Arizona State Uni (Mikel Harry) best for price and course content and alignment with an excellent engineering university. Look at pdf file at website to get course agenda. Also more pragmatic use of statistical tools such as Minitab
American Society For Quality (ASQ) uses More Stream as provider of training, teaches to their certification test. 2x times cost of ASU course. no empahsis on use of tools like for statistical analysis
SixSigma.us (consultants) don’t have any familiarity of this one
Moresteam.com provider for ASQ and some other groups 2x times cost of ASU
Villanova University more costly than above 2xplus. teaches to ASQ certification test. course content and lack of stress on use of statistical tools not as strong as ASU
My criteria list is course content, cost and experience of provider
Just my two cents0November 5, 2004 at 6:58 pm #110343Thank you
I was also leaning towards ASU. Half price, experienced teacher and Minitab at a discount. Maybe there was something i had overlooked. I don’t know the American universities so your reply was helpful.
Henrik0November 6, 2004 at 5:22 am #110356
Adam BowdenParticipant@Adam-BowdenInclude @Adam-Bowden in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Hi Henrik,
Even though I’m somewhat against on-line training due to it’s lack of MBB support – out of all the on-line training material I really like the BMG material – it’s excellent from a visual learning perspective.
Best regards,
Adam0November 8, 2004 at 2:58 pm #110409
GaneshpsParticipant@GaneshpsInclude @Ganeshps in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Hi Adam,
try out this book:
“Six sigma for managers”.
sorry iam not sure of any online sites for learning0November 8, 2004 at 7:00 pm #110439
Mike CarnellParticipant@Mike-CarnellInclude @Mike-Carnell in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Henrik,
The people that deliver the training are going to make a difference in how well your experience works. I will be right up front and tell you I do not know all these groups.
For the cost of a phone call to Moresteam.com you can probable get a chance to speak to Bill Hathaway the President and CEO. That should convince you that they care about how well you lean from their material.
Just my opinion.
Good luck.0November 9, 2004 at 10:05 am #110489Hi Mike
Ok I will try interviewing some of the groups. ASU didnt answer my E-mail (Customer focused Eh?).
Since I already know a lot of the theory (I have done several DOEs and MSAs) it is very important that the education is focused on the practical aspects. I dont need too much SS religion I need them to teach me how my future SS-projects become successes. What are the pitfalls etc?
My company havent adopted the six sigma full scale. We are more of a TQM company in the Japanese tradition with more emphasis on lean. Six Sigma (DMAIC) is only used for the hard problems and is only seen as a one of the tools in the bag. We know about DFSS but it is seen as something only for the future when everything else is trimmed.
I have ordered Pyzdeks Six Sigma handbook.
and I have read Creveling, Slutsky Antis DFSS Book which I dont like.
I have read too many DOE books to mention and have ended up using Box/Bisgaard approach.
With your experience can you give me your top 5 (or so) SS must reads.
Kind Regards
Henrik0November 9, 2004 at 7:23 pm #110512
Mike CarnellParticipant@Mike-CarnellInclude @Mike-Carnell in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Henrik,
Looks like a email paid off.
If you have been following the Lean program more so than the TQM or the Six Sigma program you still need some methodology to remove variation. If you go through Work Place Organization and Standardized Work you have really only addressed the people induced varation. At some point you need tools to take a process apart and reduce the process variation. If you don’t do that you will end up setting up Kanbans that do not work the way they should because you don’t have a consistent flow – some like to call it a drum beat and others takt time (catch some of the remaks in another string).
There is this cute little saying that the Lean zealots like to use: “Lower the level of the water (a euphaism for inventory/WIP) and expose the rocks in the river.” That is nice but if you lower that level and expose the rocks you had better have a methodology to deal with the rocks. If you don’t have a methodology you have 2 choices cover them back up again (good luck ever exposing them again) or miss your 3 JIT shipments to Dell and be disqualified.
Tom Pyzdek writes good stuff – it will be a woth while purchase. Catch a copy od Mario Perez-Wilson’s “Machine Process Capability” if you get a chance. You do need to understand it isn’t about tools (that isn’t religion). It is about results.
Give Bill at MoreSteam.com a call – you will be pleasantly surprised with his e-learning offering . ([email protected] or [email protected] )
Good luck0November 9, 2004 at 9:15 pm #110520Mike
Thank you. The value of a good start cannot be underestimated.
I will use your little saying about the rocks when I try to persuade our management to reconsider the number of belts needed and the speed we get them in. Or at least to synchronise the lean implementation with the variance reduction effort.
I will continue with Bill Hathaway
Henrik
0November 10, 2004 at 8:59 am #110532
Johnny GuilhermeParticipant@Johnny-GuilhermeInclude @Johnny-Guilherme in your post and this person will
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Where are you based. have you an e-mail address so that I contact you.
regards
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