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  • #37156

    Dave L
    Participant

    Can anyone provide a template for a Six Sigma project evaluation form that provides a 360 degree feedback to the Black Belt from either his/her Champion and/or members?

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    #108754

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Dave L,
    Why in the world would you subject your BB’s to a subjective evaluation like a 360 review? Why would you use a measurement system on a BB without a valid MSA but if they did it on a project you would be more than happy to point out the problem with their project. That is like sitting on an airplane listening to “Sweet Home Alabama.”
    You are going to put them in a situation (being a BB) that will frequently put them at odds with the organization or they will at the very least make a fair number of them uncomfortable with change. Now you are going to hang this albatross of a measurment system around their neck. They will be squeezed between producing results and winning the popularity contest. You are putting them in a no win situation. Why are you doing that?
    There is plenty of criteria to evaluate BB’s against – time to complete project, time to complete projects by phase, accomplishing project primary metrics, etc. That does put the onus on you to do more than pass out review forms, gather them together, and pass along a review that is not your responsibility because the other people did it.
    Before you do this to your BB’s quit. They don’t deserve this type of lazy superficial treatment.
    Just my opinion.

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    #108758

    Dr. Scott
    Participant

    Mike,
    Good to be back here and see your posts again.
    A 360 is a subjective thing, but can provide feedback on the interpersonal effectiveness of the BB (in addition to some other qualities). Granted, these are not THE most improtant aspects of an effective BB, but are important facilitation qualities.
    To your point of a 360 being an albatross, I totally agree unless it is used as a part (a more minor part) of their evaluation. As you have heard me say before, the most important qualites of a BB is how much more money and more happy customers did they faciliate per period of time? Much as you said.
    But the 360 can give them feedback on how to better do what you and me agree is important.
    And by the way, “Sweet Home Alabama” is a cool song. Even if my ex is from there.
    Take Care,
    Dr. Scott

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    #108760

    Mikel
    Member

    To follow on to Mike’s point – quit anyway – you don’t get it.
    I know the “Sweet Home Alabama” reference is from a movie, but “That Smell” is a better one for irony – take a valium and drink some Jack on the flight before cranking up the tunes.

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    #108761

    Ray M.
    Participant

    Heh heh….wifey hates it when I sing “La Bamba” on flights.

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    #108762

    Dr. Scott
    Participant

    Stan,
    “Sweet Home Alabama” is not from a movie. It is from Lynard Skynard.
    But, to your point, I don’t have a problem with using 360s, thought they take too much time, and are too often used as THE way to evaluate. They should merely be used to help the BB develop his or her personal skills.
    Dr. Scott

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    #108763

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Stan,
    Haven’t seen “That Smell” but I will have to put it on the list.
    I have to face South African Airlines again in about 8 days. I just hoping they have a bottle of Havana Clud Rum so I can pretend they appreciate the business.
    Regards

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    #108764

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Doc,
    The reference was to the movie “Con Air.” More irony Lynard Skynard was from Jacksonville, Florida.
    If you still want that dinner I am in Houston these days but not very often. There are some nice spots in Kema on the water.You bring the cigars, I’ll bring some tequilla, we’ll look for the green flash, you can tell me about 360’s and what they are worth and I will pretend to listen.
    At least the food and music will be good.
    Regards.

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    #108765

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Ray,
    If this is “Park the ____’in car” Ray I’m guessing everyone on the plane hates it when you sing anything. Whatever sets you free.
    If it isn’t, sorry about that. Nothing personal. Well
    Regards

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    #108766

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Ray,
    That was supposed to be “Well maybe a little.”
    I have no clue how I did that.
    Regards

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    #108767

    Mikel
    Member

    The reference to playing the song on a plane from a group who died in a plane crash is from a movie. Sweet Home Alabama is from Lynard Skynard – no duh. Extra points though if you actually know where Lynard Skynard is from.
    To your point on the 360’s – do you want proactive or reactive tools? Where does the 360 fall?

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    #108769

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Stan,
    Hey, that was me not the Doc that knew where they were from.
    Do you know where the name comes from?
    Regards

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    #108770

    Mikel
    Member

    Junior High School coach
    I saw them for 50 cents a long long time ago in Tampa and for free in a bar in Jacksonville Beach.

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    #108771

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Doc,
    I caught your other post first.
    Where have you been?
    Regards

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    #108772

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Stan,
    I had a fishing guide on Amelia Island told he we was their High School shop teacher. I guess he could have been both.
    I never caught live. That doesn’t sound right.
    I did catch Leon Russell semi-live in Chilochothe, Ohio free at the Easy Rider take your own life in your hands bike show. Does that count?
    Regards

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    #108775

    Kinnersley
    Participant

    “That Smell” is a song – not something you would “see”.  Whoever answered High School Shop Teacher is correct  – heard it on an interview with the group  – the teacher’s name was Leonard Skinnard and they played with the spelling to come up with the group name.
    As far as the 360 goes – been there, done that.  If you have really good sponsors, they will understand how to rate you (but many don’t), your peers will rate you low, and you already get a review from your MBB and should be getting that type of feedback on a regular basis.  I agree  – popularity contest indeed.

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    #108779

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Angela,
    Couldn’t agree more with the popularity contest.
    I will check out the CD (rather than the DVD’s) tomorrow. Thank you for the help.
    Dumb lucked it with the shop teacher – fishing with the local boys.
    Regards,

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    #108784

    Dr. Scott
    Participant

    Mike,
    I have been trying to get you to enjoy time with us (yes, I am getting married again) on the boat. Cigars always included, as well as Jack. We can listen to LS while cruising up to a ballgame.
    I might show up in Houston soon though. I will let you know
    Scott

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    #108785

    Dr. Scott
    Participant

    Stan,
    Not all of the band died in the crash. And you have learned (or have been affirmed already where they originated). Here is not the place to discuss that.
    But, to your question: “To your point on the 360’s – do you want proactive or reactive tools? Where does the 360 fall?”
    360s are reactive to direct process improvement, but proactive to improving the agent of improvement (i.e. the BB).
    Dr, Scott

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    #108787

    Dr. Scott
    Participant

    Mike,
    Been building activity here at home. Family matters have grounded me.
    Been working rather than chatting in here. Though, from reading what I have today, I might should spend more time here educating (kidding, sort of).
    I look forward to getting you on the boat. Better hurry before the weather turns, and my team drops more in the rankings.
    Scott

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    #108788

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Doc,
    Dropped out for a while – had to finish “Man on Fire.”
    Congratulations. Sound like life is gettin good. I wish you the best life has to offer.
    Remember time on the water doesn’t count.
    Hasta la vista.

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    #108791

    Mikel
    Member

    There are much, much better tools on the proactive side.
    I know the band well – tried to live up to “That Smell” for a while (a long time really).
    Congratulations on the wedding – the second time is better for me.

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    #108793

    Dr. Scott
    Participant

    Stan,
    Though, I don’t think we know each other, thanks for you well wishes.
    And, believe me, I too can live without the 360s. Just saying they can add value.
    Dr. Scott

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    #108803

    SSS
    Member

    Dave,Before you go crazy finding an evaluation form for your BB’s, please
    answer the following questions:
    1) Is Leadership Development a goal within your Six Sigma
    program? If so, then rather than creating a 360 degree evaluation
    form, you need to create a competency model for BB’s & an
    assessment tool. Use the tool to measure the BB against a few
    critical competencies before and after a project or before an after
    his/her tenure as BB. For instance, the competency model should
    look for competencies such as leadership, analytical, project
    management, communications and presentations, etc.
    2) If your company has an employee performance management
    process in place, then why do you need a “different” 360 degree
    form. You can use your company’s PMP forms. Even better, if you
    use your fims’ PMP forms, then you’d treat the BB like any other
    employee at the firm.. Think about it… If you want to make Six
    Sigma the DNA of your firm, why should you create different HR
    related programs such as PMP, 360 degree feedback, etc. Just
    incorporate Six Sigma into the firm’s day to day activities.Hope this Helps

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    #108811

    mand
    Member

    DAVE :  I am very much interested in a SERIOUS answer to your original question.   Aside from SSS´s reply, just above this, which touches the point, but doesn´t answer your question,  has the rest of the chat fulfilled your expectations ?   Not mine,,,,,,    Hope there might come a really pragmatic answer.
    Regards.    SAM

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    #108813

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    SAM,
    Mine was a serious response nor chat. Dr. Scott and Stan also made serious comments.
    Good luck.

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    #108956

    Dave L
    Participant

    We benchmarked our deployment plan around 3M, and they were using the 360 feedback form.  They also treat Six Sigma as a leadership initiative, so SSS may have some questions for them.
    Other than appreciating the deep relationship that exists between Mike and Doc, there hasn’t been much more said on the subject.
    But truely, we are leaning against using it now, based upon some of that feedback.
    Thanks,
    Dave L

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    #109353

    Dr. Scott
    Participant

    Mike,
    I did not know we had a “deep realtionship”. See the reply to your post, below I think.
    Dr. Scott

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    #112473

    Mikel
    Member

    With nothing better to do this afternoon and a rambling mind, I looked up the band’s FAQ’s – For Mike Carnell’s entertainment only –
     Lynyrd Skynyrd came from Leonard Skinner. Skinner was a gym coach at Robert E. Lee High School in Jacksonville who at some point in the 1960s disciplined Gary and Bob for letting their hair grow. The young musicians eventually dropped out of school, but remembered all the hassles. In 1970, the band — playing as the One Percent — had a gig at a local club called the Forest Inn and Ronnie called out to the crowd, “Hey, we’re Leonard Skinner and we’re gonna play for y’all tonight”. Since most of the crowd had run into Coach Skinner at one point or another the name was an instant hit and stuck. Eventually, the vowels were changed “to protect the guilty” — as Gary put it a few years agao.

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    #112538

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Stan,Just got an email that I had missed this one. Looks like you were correct. At least my guide could find fish even if he couldn’t keep the guys job straight.Robert E. Lee High School? Welcome to the Redneck Riviera.Thanks

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