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    Van Loon
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    The big question is who should be qualified to grant a certification to a Six Sigma practitioner? I believe it must come from an organization that recognizes and promotes Six Sigma professionals and methodologies that support them. Although ASQ might qualify it’s primary focus is Quality professionals. One of the most common ways for Six Sigma implementations to fail is to bring them in through the Quality group at any company. Six Sigma, when best implemented, is a business philosophy – not the primary focus for ASQ. I would like to see ISSSP – International Society for Six Sigma Professionals step up to the bar and get a certification process in place. At their last symposium, March 6-8, they discussed getting started and I look forward to seeing more information in the near future.

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    #66041

    Anonymous
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    Careful — ISSSP is just a front for BMG. The lady Heather who sends out a lot of stuff for them is married to the CEO of BMG. The other folks who send out stuff are employees or former employees of one of the other partners, Roxanne.

    It would be nice if ISSSP were independent. How do you know they will not bias the certification toward their customers?

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    #66044

    Jeff
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    ISSSP may have been started by BMG, but they are working very hard to keep this an independent organization. They have been working to get many of the other consultants on board and support six sigma through an independent organization. I believe they will be successful.

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    #66045

    Joe Perito
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    I agree with Jan on the point of having six sigma regulated by an authoritative group… but I don’t know who that would be. The ASQ has had some sorry articles in the Quality Progress magazine on how the certification board has subjective questions over which they argue and then take a majority vote on what the answers will be for the CQE test. In other words, even the board admits the material is subjective and does not have absolute right or wrong answers. The articles go on to say that more points are given for the type of education you might have. It implies that those without good credentials are scored less favorly. These are the printed words of the board itself. Another point is, that I would be careful not to blame six sigma program failures on the fact that some Quality programs may have implemented by the QA Department. I don’t belive there are enough companies that have tried six sigma to produce any factual data that the failures were due to being a QA Department driven program. The information that I have read from the most prominent names in the six sigma field is that the successful programs at GE, Allied Signal, and Motorola are not the result of any kind of special formula. It is usually the result of a CEO edict that the program “WILL” be put in place and “WILL” be supported by the managers. This is absolutely clear and draws a 1.00 correlation to you “WILL” show up for work on time every day.—-Who qualifies for a “Black Belt”? Certainly no one that has studied project management and statistics for only four weeks.

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    #66053

    Anonymous
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    I belive my process is in control — do I need data?

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    #66056

    Jeff
    Participant

    Touche…I do have some preliminary data though and it looks good.

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    #66057

    Kilborn
    Participant

    Dear Anonymous,

    I am the “lady” that works for ISSSP that you referred to in your previous post. I thought it necessary to clear up the misconceptions you have about me. I may share the same last name as one of the partners of BMG, but I am NOT married to this man. Please do not make assumptions.

    Respectfully Yours,
    Heather

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    #66252

    Sukotto
    Member

    I agree ISSSP is nothing more than a seminar business start-up sponsored by BMG. BMG has no original DNA in their organization. I would like to see Motorola, GE, The Academy and Six Sigma Qualtec get together and do this.

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    #66253

    Sukotto
    Member

    I respecfully disagree. I have met with these folks and they articulated to me in no uncertain terms that the goal of ISSSP was not to be certification body but a seminar business. I asked directly if they will run it non-profit and the answer was “No.”

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