# Cutting Rate Test Question

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- July 26, 2007 at 2:00 pm #47662
I am trying to test rotary cutting instruments for cut rate ( time to cut a given depth). I need to determine a statistically significant # of samples to test. Typically I test 30 samples, using 10 cuts each for longevity. Is this appropriate? Do I need more samples? How can I prove that 30 is enough? Please help… Thanks.

0August 6, 2007 at 5:14 am #159591

Jonathon AndellParticipant@Jonathon-Andell**Include @Jonathon-Andell in your post and this person will**

be notified via email.If you don’t know whether or not your process is statistically stable, any sampling scheme is at risk.

I think you should think about establishing a rational subgrouping scheme. With a control chart you can estimate process capability and determine whether your process is stable. Ideally, capability is estimated using stable processes.

Bear in mind that establishing an effective scheme of rational subgrouping is very much a non-trivial task in and of itself.0August 6, 2007 at 11:09 am #159594You should consider your Components of Variance as well. Draw out the “tree” structure and then, look at what your subgrouping strategies will be. The COV will tell you where your process is stable/unstable and will tell you which family of variation should be attacked first.

0August 6, 2007 at 3:35 pm #159606J, how are you calculating process capability from a CC?

D, once you diagram the hiearachal (sp) layout for your batch-sample-test sequence, what method is used to analyze COV?

Thanks!0August 8, 2007 at 8:38 pm #159703

Jonathon AndellParticipant@Jonathon-Andell**Include @Jonathon-Andell in your post and this person will**

be notified via email.Once I establish that the process is stable, I use the underlying data to do the usual stuff: histogram, verify normality, capability numbers, etc.

If this response is too cryptic to suit you, let me know.0August 8, 2007 at 11:15 pm #159704Ok, so you are simply carrying the data you collected for your CC over into the normal tool set?Thanks!

0August 9, 2007 at 2:22 am #159714

Jonathon AndellParticipant@Jonathon-Andell**Include @Jonathon-Andell in your post and this person will**

be notified via email.Correct, with the caveat that the data should come from a statistically stable process. At the risk of preaching to the choir let me say this. Before crunching capability numbers, one always should:

– Develop appropriate metrics

– Validate the measurement system

– Confirm statistical stability (stabilize the process if necessary)

– For continuous data, test for normality; if necessary identify a suitable distribution

It can be a fair amount of effort, but it’s all part of one big safety net.0August 9, 2007 at 5:55 am #159717

Jim ShelorParticipant@Jim-Shelor**Include @Jim-Shelor in your post and this person will**

be notified via email.Mike,

Just to make sure I have the setup correct.

Do you mean for each cutting instrument you use 30 samples and make 10 cuts on each sample?

Then you time the rate of each cut for each instrument to a predetermined depth?

Respects,

Jim Shelor0 - AuthorPosts

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