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    giroux32227
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    DOD (Dept. of Defense) Has broken Six Sigma down into another degree of belt.  There is now White Belt.  For what reason I don’t know.  I viewed the training, very confussing.  Is there such a thing as White Belt?

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    #164822

    Fake Stan Alert
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    Yes
    Nothing  new
    WB/YB/GB/BB & MBB
    WB training  should  last (at least) for  2-day SS introduction
    (my  opinion)

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    #164834

    Dr. Scott
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    giroux32227,
    FSA is correct. This has become a common breakdown of Six Sigma training. I don’t buy into it, but many do.
    WB – usually involves 2 days of training. Though recently has become just handing out a CD to be watched that explains “what is going on around here”. Has a simple test at the end.
    YB – usually involves 1 week of training. Some are using the CD approach to training for this level as well, but most are still using personal training.
    GB – usually involves 2 weeks of training. Should always be personal training.
    BB – usually involves 4.5 to 5 weeks of training, and should always be personal with consulting support including GB participation.  
    MBB – I honestly don’t know of anyone who truly does MBB training. It is usually a decision/promotion made by a consulting firm or the client (sometimes with a recommendation of a consultant)
    This is a very simple breakdown. I have many other things to add, but wanted to keep it short at this point. I personally do not subscribe to YB and WB unless the company (DoD) just wants to give me more money
    Regards,
    Dr. Scott

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    #164839

    Brandon
    Participant

    again I agree with the majority of Dr. S’s comment yet I feel there is a place for WB.
    My version of WB is both awareness training (what’s going on around here) as a contributor to Change Mngt AND it imparts usable knowledge relative to cause and effect and critical X thinking. I’ve seen its impact in the capabilities of the worker level person who now “thinks” the SS way. They are equipped to make better decisions, to look for root causes, to realize processes are flawed etc. Just the application of these principles to how they “think” improves what they do.
    So I believe it has its place.

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    #164843

    Dr. Scott
    Participant

    Hello Brandon,
    Your points are well received.
    But my problem is where (i.e., what level) of an organization should WB, YB, GB, BB, and MBB be located? And what do they need to know to contribute to process improvement? What are the roles and responsibility of each? And how does each of these levels relate or interact with each other?
    I would love to hear you opinion on this, because it has burdened me for quite some time.
    If you would rather respond to my email @hotmail.com">dodoc@hotmail.com you are welcome to. Or maybe this should be a new thread on the website.
    Cordially,
    Dr. Scott

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    #164844

    EdG
    Participant

    All it is for is to take someone that is “totally clueless” and give them a clue.  What was originally intended to be a ~1 hour class has grown; I believe it is now a ~4 hour class.  Just the same, it was to give everyone an idea of what is this “continuous process improvement” stuff; and it was to briefly go over six sigma, lean, theory of constraints.  It has expanded a little and it is presently undergoing a second revision.
    Oh and no test at the end.  Other than fogging a mirror.

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    #164847

    Brandon
    Participant

    Good suggestion Dr. S. Quite a topic and sure to be a variety of opinions.
    I don’t portend to have all the answers – only experiences of what has seemed to work and that which didn’t. And, what worked was highly dependent upon the culture, mngt involvement, union attitudes (good & bad)..and a few other factors I would have to think about for a bit.
    Start a thread…it would be interesting…might even draw Darth back into play.

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    #164848

    LBJ
    Participant

    I can give a little bit of insight on the WB YB structure from personal experience.  The Navy, specifically the Naval Aviation side uses the WB course as a basic intro.  It is an online course required for everyone.  The topics include working in a cost wise environment, Basic Lean,  5S and Six Sigma.  They also talk about TOC.  Included in the training are lectures from admirals expressing how important “AIRSpeed” is.
    The Yellow Belt course is a 2-3 day in seat class.  Focus is more on application of tools through games and scenarios.  We simulater a production operation then apply the 5 Principles of Lean.  We also practice mapping, and brainstorming using prescribed tools.  This class is also designed for all levels.  The goal is to get 100% of the people through this course. 
    Any one who would like more info let me know.
    [email protected]

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    #164851

    Dr. Scott
    Participant

    LBJ,
    I formally trained and consulted NAVAIR and NAVSEA. At that time there were no “plans” to do YB and WB training. I guess I have mixed emotions on the fact you are doing it now, but would like to get your viewpoint.
    My hope is that you are experiencing great results at all levels.
    I am not sure where you are located in NAVAIR, but perhaps you were one of my formal students. If you wish, send me an email at @hotmail.com">dodoc@hotmail.com . I really would like to know how things are going there since I left. If you feel comfortable in giving me a phone number, perhaps we can discuss things on the phone rather than by email.
    Hope to Hear From You,
    Dr. Scott

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    #164852

    LBJ
    Participant

    EMS doc

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    #164853

    qualitycolorado
    Participant

    Giroux3227, Good morning!
     
    You may also want to check out information about the military’s use of Six Sigma on the new iSixSigma “Military Channel”:
     
    http://military.isixsigma.com/
     
     
    Best regards,
    QualityColorado

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    #164854

    Dr. Scott
    Participant

    LBJ,
    Has the merger between you and the “desert” installation yet taken place?
    I worked both.
    Maybe we should take this offline?
    Regards,
    Dr. Scott

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    #164864

    White belt
    Member

    Yes, the white belt comes with a box of crayons so you can color it whatever you like.  Apart from holding up trousers, it is just as useless as the others.

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    #164865

    Brandon
    Participant

    White belt – GO AWAY. Find some of your own friends to play with.

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