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    Mike Carnell
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    To nobody in particular,
    My proclivity is to be nocturnal so I miss these morning talk shows. Unfortunately I found myself awake and watching one of these idiotic shows this morning. The topic was some rating system that has been created for food. We have moved from printing the ingredients on the package to printing the nutritional information and now we have a check mark. The television personality (I asume we refer to them as personalities since he obviously had no brains) and the subject matter expert were discussing what the check mark meant. He was confused because Corn Flakes and Fruit Loops both had the check mark. He assumed that made them equivalent. What moron can’t figure out the difference between Fruit Loops and Corn Flakes besides the television personality? If we have become a nation that has been so dumbed down that we won’t read the nutritional information on a package and have to have a check mark so we can understand what possible future do we have? The information is on the same box and we can’t read it?
    We won’t even begin to discuss this guys ability to comprehend why the ingenious check mark system had different criteria for different types of foods. Statification! What a concept!
    We have turned management into simply looking at a computer screen and looking at a bunch of red, yellow and green lights. Then we wonder why we have the economic turmoil that we have. No wonder guys like Madoff can pull off the schemes they do. It is still style over substance more so than it has ever been. No wonder concepts like Six Sigma struggle in some environments when we as a nation will tolerate people on television that are shallow as spit.
    That was cathartic.
    Just my opinion

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    #185419

    Poster II
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    Mike Carnell:
    Your observations are interesting and perhaps even true, but your underlying premise that “substance” should reign over “style” might be somewhat limiting.  Maybe the central question is not one of style OR substance, but rather style AND substance. 
    We need not look far to see examples of this.  The “and v.s. or” issue is quite apparent within the Six Sigma industry itself.  Just look at the offerings that some of the consultants (within the industry) are passing off as “new and improved.”  These consultants have obviously given way to style; and done so at the cost of substance.  However, some of the consultants have insisted on retaining substance, but have done so with little style.  Yet other consultantas (perhaps the vital few) have focused on retaining substance while providing it in a stylish way.
    At day’s end, what is the best strategy?  Seems it might take a subject matter expert, a box of corn flakes and a check mark to sort it all out.  In spite of all this, I prefer granola and oatmeal, not corn flakes.
    Just my opinion too 

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    #185420

    Radiohead
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    What you’re not taking into account is nearly all the media these days are Federal government departments!Anyway, stop rocking the horse – you’re supposed to be a sheeple :-)

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    #185421

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Poster II,
    I don’t see style and substance mix very often but you are right I would consider the guys at Moresteam a good combination.
    The recession seems to be sorting this out in the SS business.
    Thanks for the response.

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    #185422

    Mike Carnell
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    Radiohead,
    I remember teaching my kids that people were red lights and green lights. Now we are getting these truncated thoughtless signals that we teach children, as a way for adults to deal with the complexity of life.
    They keep saying we only use 10% of our brains and we are finding ways yto reduce that instead of teaching people to understand things.
    I had cable installed in July and found a channel that has a picture with a stripe down the right side with information and stock prices or something scrolling across the bottom. WTF. Nobody can focus on 3 things simultaneously. I suppose the next move is to throw in some terms like muda and gemba just to make sure that who ever tries to gain any value from this can’t. Maybe it is just to disguise a lack of content?
    One system kills thought with simplicity and the other by being completely inane.
    Thanks for your thoughts.
    Just my opinion.

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    #185423

    Mike Carnell
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    BTW it no longer matters, or it won’t in the near future, what you like. It will only matter if you have a check mark on the box. A stylish check mark.
    Regards

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    #185426

    Radiohead
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    Mike,I never understood this movie until about one month ago.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE&feature=relatedAt least you guys have the right to secede!

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    #185443

    Vallee
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    Mike,
    You have time to watch TV and can afford cable….. what’s the
    problem? HF Chris Vallee

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    #185444

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Radiohead,
    The link took me to a page that had a lot of videos. Which one? You have my curiosity going.
    Regards

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    #185445

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Chris,
    I had some guests over the summer and thought it might be better if they had television. I actually like that show Bones. Would someone like that make a great BB – as long as you had someone to do the implementation.
    Time to watch? I am in a hotel room and work starts at 1pm. A little jet lagged and then I end up watching these shows out of boredom. I would rather have a root canal.
    Good to hear from you. Hope things are going well for you.
    Regards

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    #185450

    Radiohead
    Participant

    Mike:
    Sarch youtube using:
    I’m mad as Hell and I’m not going to take this anymore!

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    #185452

    Bob Dylon
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    Everything Is Broken
    Broken lines, broken strings,
    Broken threads, broken springs,
    Broken idols, broken heads,
    People sleeping in broken beds.
    Ain’t no use jiving
    Ain’t no use joking
    Everything is broken.Broken bottles, broken plates,
    Broken switches, broken gates,
    Broken dishes, broken parts,
    Streets are filled with broken hearts.
    Broken words never meant to be spoken,
    Everything is broken.Seem like every time you stop and turn around
    Something else just hit the groundBroken cutters, broken saws,
    Broken buckles, broken laws,
    Broken bodies, broken bones,
    Broken voices on broken phones.
    Take a deep breath, feel like you’re chokin’,
    Everything is broken.Every time you leave and go off someplace
    Things fall to pieces in my faceBroken hands on broken ploughs,
    Broken treaties, broken vows,
    Broken pipes, broken tools,
    People bending broken rules.
    Hound dog howling, bull frog croaking,
    Everything is broken.Copyright ©1989 Special Rider Music

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    #185454

    Severino
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    While you’re entitled to your opinion Mike, I’m not sure that a check mark on a cereal box is sufficient objective evidence to condemn the comprehension of an entire nation.  There have been some advances in labeling that err on the side of brevity yet focus on what matters most.  Most packaging these days now state whether products contain nuts or have come into contact with them listed outside the ingredients list.  This makes it highly efficient for me to shop since my son has a peanut allergy and reading the entire ingredients list can sometimes be time consuming. 
    I’m not sure if the check mark has any value or merit to it, having not paid much attention to it in the past, but I would imagine the TV personality was asking the “basic” questions because someone out there would probably ask them.  One must ask basic questions before you can get to advanced ones. 
    I’m just glad to see Radiohead reads isixsigma…. :)

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    #185455

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Thanks. I will check it out.
    Regards

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    #185468

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Jsev607,
    I can appreciate the difficulty you must have with the dietary requirements. I did mention more than just the stylish check mark.
    Regards

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