Established Control Limits
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January 26, 2002 at 3:38 am #28625
How to establish control limits (UCL, LCL)? Do I use the UCL&LCL from the X-bar chart or individual moving average chart? How many sample do I need so that the UCL/LCL is statistically valid?
0January 26, 2002 at 4:38 am #71559
Jim JohnsonParticipant@Jim-JohnsonInclude @Jim-Johnson in your post and this person will
be notified via email.The control limits are statistically defined as 3 standard deviations above and below the mean of the data sampled. In the case of the X-bar chart, the UCL/LCL is 3 STD DEV above/below the average of the sub-groups of the data.
To answer your question (I think) you would always use the UCL/LCL on the chart where it appears. It exists to determine when a process is statistically in or out of control, not whether the process is meeting specification limits. The specification limits are set by the customer.
Bottom line, is you use the UCL/LCL to determine statistical control on a process. Use the specification limits (customer requirements) to determine whether the process is meeting customer expectations.
I hope that this helps.
Jim0January 26, 2002 at 3:35 pm #71571Jim: how many subgroup of data that I need so that I can use the UCL/LCL on the charts? The reason I ask because I need to establish UCL/LCL for a process on the production floor for in-process inspection. I want to be able to justify using UCL/LCL on the charts. Do I need to use different set-up at the machine, then collect more data, and create UCL/LCL and use it so that it is the representation of the process? Thanks!
0January 28, 2002 at 9:44 am #71593
bob fareyParticipant@bob-fareyInclude @bob-farey in your post and this person will
be notified via email.The choice of chart is dependent on the quantity and type of data. Ten data points plotted on a chart (this may be ten sub-group means and ranges or ten single readings) give a reasonable indication of the state of the process. Fifteen to twenty give a strong indication and 25 to 50 is ideal. It gets more complicated if the process is, or appears to be, out of control, since data values due to special causes need to be eliminated before you can calculate the true underlying mean value and the degree of natural variation. Always remember that if you use control charts to monitor processes, you always know much more about the process than someone who doesn’t !
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