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    rast67
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    Greetings,
    It is simply amazing how people try to pass themselves off as Master Black Belts.  I truly believe they are at home printing off certificates with whatever on them.  We were interviewing for a MBB for the European area of operation, and the dodo-heads that presented themselves as MBB´s were pittyful.  Please correct me if I am wrong, but I have been in the Six Sigma world for 4 years now, and know of only ONE company who actually has a specific certification program for ALREADY certified BB´s to become MBB´s. 
    We truly need a national certification program for GB, BB, and maybe MBB. 
    Please help me  to sift out these wanna be´s.
     
    Rast67
     

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    #88203

    Terry
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    Rast67,
    What help do you need? If someone things that a certificate is going to “get them the job” then my advice is go for it…there’s a sucker born every minute. Real Six Sigma companies and individuals who truly understand Six Sigma aren’t going to give much weight to a certificate from outside their company. They’re going to ask the hard-hitting questions like how they aligned operations to the Six Sigma initiative in their last job or what specific projects they’ve done and how much their savings impacted the bottom line.
    Buyer beware applies to this industry, just like every other in life. A national certificate program isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. Do your homework, spend the time thinking about questions that will cut to the “meat of the matter” and hire only the best. That’s what you need to do.
    Kill the certificate programs. Show me the $.
    Terry

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    #88207

    Mann
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    I agree there are a lot of fake MBB’s as well as BB’s.  I agree with you Terry it’s about asking the right questions.  Behavioral types questions in an interview that require the person to explain how they have a applied a specific skill will weed out the losers.  My preference is to do a phone screen of questions before we waste money on the the face to face. 
    While we are on the subject I would be interested in knowing if anyone recommends a good training company for certifying MBB’s.

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    #88209

    Mikel
    Member

    At least three have a certification program for existing BB’s

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    #88212

    NATZIC
    Participant

    If the 3 do not include a multi national disc drive manufacturer loacted in N. Ireland then add htat as well – we ahve the full 4 week training prog. for BBs including exams, then 2 projects and then a certification interview – To become a MBB your then require 2 yrs ecperience as a BB and to be capable (assessed practical exam) of teaching BB.
    But the comment made is correct – ask them about the projects completed and $ saved and that will weed out the liars!

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    #88215

    rast67
    Participant

    Well I agree with all of you, we did ask the right questions and that is how we figured out they were all bunch of losers.  Europe is a though market to recruit top notch candidates (language abilities mainly). 
    Anyway, thanks for all the feed back…. feel better now…
    Cheers,
    Rast

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    #88218

    Fer
    Participant

    I strongly agree with you Rast67. I accepted the BB job after getting the GB certification and it was really disappointing to discover that some MBB’s (to which I should have referred to get help!) have attended the BB DMAIC/DFSS course with me. I discovered that some of these MBB’s have never closed a six sigma project and now they are mentoring projects of other people’s. Furthermore now they are six sigma teacher for GB’s.
    I’ve known people which have become MBB’s after working as BB for 2 years and more, and you see the difference!

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