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    Rouge BB
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    I am looking for rules-of-thumb for acceptable %’s of gage linearity. Any input?Β 

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    #74774

    Mike Carnell
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    Rouge,
    Calculate the regression line. Use the slope value. (Y= ax + b > use a ; I think that is how AIAG specifies the formula) Lower is better.
    I think the AIAG manual has a section on this.
    Good luck.

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    #74776

    Rouge BB
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    Mike, thanks for the input. I understand that lower is better, what I am specifically interested in is how low is excellent, vs how low is good enough. Is there a rule of thumb? Should I relate it to a % of the total tolerance?

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    #74777

    MartΓ­nez
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    This metric is more like the % of process than % of tolerance.
    Suggest you use the same percentages as for GR&R – 30% unacceptable.
    AIAG MSA doesn’t really give acceptance criteria, but this is what I use, and it makes sense.

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    #74778

    Rouge BB
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    Thanks for the input. My initial thinking was using this critera as “acceptance”. I wanted to raise this question to see if anyone out there has a different way of looking at it.
    Thanks again.
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    #74779

    Khandekar
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    Unfortunately there is no Rule of Thumb for accepting linearity. Also you should not look only at the slope of the regression line. For the regression line to be meaningful, goodness of fit also should be high. Again, no ruleΒ to decide how high is good enough. For linearity, we normally take parts throughout the range of the instrument. Which tolerance (or process variation) should you consider?
    -Atul.
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    #74787

    Mike Carnell
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    Rouge,
    Sorry for the incomplete answer.
    I try to relate anything that has to do with gages to the tolerance if there is one. The error that I get from the gage always eats away at the workable space I have in the tolerance. The percent tolerance is probably a good guideline but I would look at it as a whole. The worse the process behaves the less room I have for error (All 5 types) in the gage.Β If the process behaves well I can tolerate more gage error. Ultimately I want them all reduced.
    That really wasn’t much better was it?

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    #74796

    Withheld
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    MBB,
    I agree with your %’s. To add color to your comments, I use 10% or less for critical characteristics and no greater than 30% for the others.

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    #74799

    MartΓ­nez
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    We also created a modified Minitab gage linearity macro that runs a regression analysis on the bias points to test if the slope is significantly different from zero. If the p-value is greater than 0.05, we don’t worry about linearity – although we will check the plot in case the data are indicative of important non-linear trends, such as a quadratic.
    I hear rumors that the newest MSA edition from AIAG may incorporate better techniques, such as this, but haven’t yet seen it.

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    #74925

    Eoin
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    R-squared value of great than 0.95 is a good rule of thumb over the range of values which you expect. Might want to considerΒ intermediate precision as part of your criteria alos. say a relative standard deviation (RSD) of less than 2%.
    Best of luck, Eoin Β 

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