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    Dixit
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    Hi guys,
    When you are deploying Six Sigma in you rorganization, what are the experiences you will prefer for your hiring? The industrial experiences or the field experiences in Six Sigma?
    For example if you have 2 candidates A and  B as below, which one you will prefer?
    A – 8-10 years experience in your industry but only have simple training in Six Sigma and without much project experiences.
    B- 5 years in another industry but have formal Six Sigma certifications and completed more than 10 Six Sigma projects.

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    #172009

    Brandon
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    B.
    It is likely easier to get up to speed on your industry’s stuff than it is to perfect SS skills.

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    #172013

    Desmond W
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    I would agree that B is the better choice. However, I saw most HR and recruitment agency will pick up A around my town. Some how i think HR are focus heavier on industry experiences than field experiences.I think if the company want to deploy SS means they are looking for change.Getting a person good in their industry but green in SS may not bring in much break through for them.

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    #172016

    sandrine berthet
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    B

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    #172223

    bb2000
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    “B” would be the preferred candidate. However apart from the technical skills that each of these candidates display you will still need to consider their people skills. eg. How well will they interact with other people in addressing the root causes of your business inefficiencies. Its no good having someone who is highly technical and unable to relate to people when you are trying to roll out a new improvement methodology in the workplace. Good communication skills and effectively working with all sorts of people is another important factor to consider.

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    #172224

    Enrico Brianza
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    Well, the answer here is: it depends!! It depends on what? I think we should look to the ability of the candidate to learn something new & in a sense “go back to study”… if this is ok I’ll surely suggest option A, because knowledge matter expertise is really important and it takes time to build it.. However, if the potential candidate A is not showing the willingness and the curiosity for something new then it’s better the option B, because upgrading SS skills on A would be a desperate effort…

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    #172225

    RhinoNeil
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    I am a Black Belt who has just moved into a completely new industry. I was hired specifically on the basis of being BB and not from the industry (logisitics – still trying to get used to not using paperwork). So far I have been uisng my knowledge to bring in “fresh ideas” and go into uints where it is suspected their are issues and “ask the stupid questions” to guage what is really going on. Too much hiring from within the industry means the same problems with the same solutions occur with the same thinking.
    However, they have had to setup a fairly detailed mentoring plan over the last six months to ensure I am learning the industry which will be essential if you do choose “B”.

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    #172226

    Mr C
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    I have recently moved industries and have been taken on for my BB skills as SS is new to them and they weren’t getting where they needed to with home grown BB’s.
    From what I’ve seen the SS skills can be transfered easily between industries and my different poitn of view has already brought some good benefits and I’ve only been here a few months.
    What I would say though is do have a good induction program for the new person. I haven’t recieved this and I’m finding getting into the nuts and bolts fo the company difficult.

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    #172227

    Telcomate
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    You guys are lucky to have the role in different industry.I have 5 years of experiences and completed more than 10 projects in BB role.I have both service and manufacturing industrial experiences and trying to go for SS in finance. I have been able to study the situation in financial field and found some really good opportunities to improve but the HR and recruitment agent are so KIND enough to reject me without a second thought even some relevant posts on their hand cannot be filled by satisfactory candidates for 3 months.I have pointed out some ways which I can help, including deployment skills with graphical interface so that the management can have quick glance and understandings on the project goal and status. I also made a proposal on using SS tools to develop a financial model as I noticed some models are develop without sufficient validation and testing.The reasons I always heard is “you are not from finance industries” and some even more specific as “you are not from a wealth management role” But the positions they are offering require some really sound process improve skills which I was working at.I have further meeting and discussion with some guys from the bank. They told me the SS in many banks here(HK)are not very successful because it seems that their project leader or BB cannot spread the culture and produce some high impact project after 1 year so the interest of management declined. However, companies are hiring escalating people from another bank to fill in the SS role because they have the specific industrial experiences even though do not have significant project completed after some time.I dont know it can be classified as “passing failure around” or it might be sound a bit offensive for some guys here.Perhaps I am just nagging too much here. But I am surprise that many will choose B where I saw most companies are choosing A with my experiences. People value industry experiences higher than field experiences in SS role in my town here.

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    #172241

    Ron
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    You cannot replace proper training..there are many “BB’s” claiming this title..so #1 is where did you obtain your training and by whom. What was your certification process? #2 is how have you applied it and did you use the tools or just faked it.
    I have seen many examples of BB’s who have completed a project that they were doing anyhow, did not use the correct tools in the correct phases of a project but obtained a good result.
    Six Sigma and Lean are both toolkits in the larger propblem solving methodology wrapped around the DMAIC process. If you don’t use the proper steps in the methodology it doesn’t matter how much “experience” you have in the industry.
    Conversly if you have the experience and the proper training I want you!
     

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    #172271

    Telcomate
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    There are some good training and some bad training in town. However, most of the people has opted for those kind of training with simple concept and tools without much application. Because as what we see is people are just looking for quick training for the certifications so that they can claimed to be “trained”. There were some really good training 2 years ago but people complained the requirement was too harsh for them so the course providers have to tune down the course requirement to meet the “market needs”. The SS in here started to experience a lot of setback through failed projects, declined deployment. Many firms just looking at industrial experience when they look for people and the SS skills is always an “advantage” which is complementary to the industry experience.So it is like trying to ask the people who doing the same old thing to change the same old thing. Many effort from the local SS bodies were put into educating the employers to look into the process improvement with more practical application but its still does not help much and further worsen by the HR outsource while SS people are hiring through unfamiliar professionals.Interview questions were heavily focus on the specific industrial job practice but not on the hard and soft skills in SS. One of the bank who claimed to deployed SS with many experts working for them are still require their customer to stand and queue up for hour to handle transaction at the counter. Their ATM is still working in the same old ways and long queue is needed to withdraw money. But amazingly their “SS” professionals are warmly welcomed by other banks in the town so the game is passing people around rather than passing success.Sorry if I nagged too much.

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