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    Bryan Melchionda
    Participant

    Anyone have any thoughts on the Kaplan Six Sigma Program?

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    #163050

    Mikel
    Member

    Yes, they are yet another example of mediocrity.

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    #163051

    Bryan
    Participant

    Stan ~ You know this becasue you took part  in the class, or maybe know of others who did? Where does these negative feelings towards the program stem from? Thanks. /b

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    #163089

    GB
    Participant

    I agree.  Kaplan is mediocre.   No diff from their other “educational/Prep” offerings.
    Blech.

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    #163090

    Bryan
    Participant

    Does the group have a recommendation for a non “no-name” organization that trains on Six Sigma? My current org will not drop a penny for education so the cost comes completely out of my pocket. Kaplan’s course is 3,999 for Black Belt. Any other programs that are reasonable and around that price? At least the name Kaplan stands out as a leader in education/test prep.

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    #163091

    Java
    Participant

    Stan take a class, you’ve got to be kidding? You have to be teachable in order to see that happen and Stan is definitely not teachable. Bryan, when Stan is positive about something, be weary, meanwhile – take his feedback as the value you paid for it.

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    #163092

    Matthew
    Participant

    The Villanova program is the best one out there.   Of course, I work for the organization that makes it possible so I might be a little biased. 

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    #163093

    GB
    Participant

    Look into Motorola U, or find a Client company of your org and see if they have a “lend-lease” program.   My company offers this free of charge to Suppliers.

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    #163094

    Brandon
    Participant

    Brian, look at eBooks on this site. There are 2 vendors offering BB courses – self teach without a mentor but they could get you started at a very low cost. Then you could decide what direction to take from there.

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    #163097

    fan
    Participant

    What makes Villinova better than other providers?

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    #163099

    Nwajei
    Participant

    wait a minute, you can become a black belt online now? LOL

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    #163100

    Java
    Participant

    Sure. Watch some slide shows, pass some quizzes, submit a project to a professor, and they e-mail you a certification.
    (Note: the actual black belt is not included and must be purchased separately)

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    #163108

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    Because  they  focus  on  education,not  only  certification

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    #163110

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    Kaplan  has  nothing  to  do  with  SS,go  to  best  available  option:
    Villanova U.

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    #163122

    Brandon
    Participant

    Java, cleary you are being factious and implying this approach is less than satisfactory.
    However, please tell me how this approach is different from the majority of our learning experience. We go through a sequence at school, through, say, mechanical eng. Do you really believe that when you receive that diploma you are an engineer. I certainly wasn’t. I had to enter industry and spend a great deal of time learning how to apply that education. I also had to learn how to effectively interface with coworkers, mngt and line personnel. I had to learn the practical application of theory I learned in college.
    SS is no different. Whether training company taught, online or self taught the rubber meets the road in application. SS is a body of knowledge that can be learned in many forums – capability comes in application.
    PS: There is no such thing as SS certification – its a fabricated title in this industry.

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    #163123

    MW Richardson
    Participant

    Here, Here!
    For those who have been duped by Six Sigma training, every project looks like a long list of deliverables starting with a project charter and ending with a control plan with a lot of stuff in the middle.
    Not every project requires all of these tools. Most projects I have seen could have been successful with the judicious application of Statistical Process Control up front, not tacked on to the end of the project.
    MW Richardson

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    #163126

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    How you  come  to  this  conclusion:its a  fabricated  title…….
    Please  elaborate  more
    thanks  and  regards

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    #163128

    Brandon
    Participant

    FAA, reasonable question and I’ve expressed my opinion on this before and likely will many more times.
    SS has no centrally recognized body that establishes, monitors and applies certification criteria and subsquently issues a certificate of compliance. We live with whoever wants to make whatever rules and bless whomever they wish as “certified”.
    The medical community has the American Medical Asso., realtors have the Natl Realtors Asso., accountants have something (whatever the name is), etc. As an industry they have formed these central bodies, empowered them with the authority to apply accepted, standardized criteria to achieve their certification AND they all abide by these rules.
    We have no such body. Mikel Harry made up some stuff, probably well-founded, and the rest of us have applied our version. Is certification from, say, BMG or AIT (or Stan for that matter), any different than certification from Tim & Willy’s Six Sigma Co.? What about certification from your employer? I would tender that the majority of the belt population was trained in corporate internal programs, since that’s the model. So is a Siemen’s certification any different from the others?
    We spend hours arguing who is a real belt and who isn’t yet there is no definition from which the arguments draw there validation. It’s really silly.

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    #163130

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    Well said 

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    #163132

    Brandon
    Participant

    FAA – thanks – unfortunately.

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    #163147

    Java
    Participant

    I am all for increasing education

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