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  • #45370

    Ashman
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    I notice that none of the latest 3 Baldridge winners use six sigma !!

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    #148118

    qualitycolorado
    Participant

    Steve,You are correct: Six sigma is not mentioned in the presss release or the quick summaries for the Baldrige winners.Wait until there is more information — often, Six Sigma (and / or other improvement methodologies) are mentioned in the details for each Baldrige winner.These details are usually released on the main Baldrige Award site in the 1st quarter of the year.http://baldrige.nist.gov/
    Best regards,QualityColorado

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    #148120

    Ashman
    Member

    The blurb says , 2 are “continuous improvement”, which I assume means “TQM”, and 1 is “Lean” … no six sigma ! 
    http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/2006baldrigewinners.htm
    Don’t try to read in six sigma when it is not there !
     

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    #148121

    qualitycolorado
    Participant

    Steve,Point well taken.Best regards,QualityColorado

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    #148123

    qualitycolorado
    Participant

    Steve,This efinitely worth more research. One of the 3 Baldrige winners this year, Premier, Inc., is a service organization owned by a number of non-profit hospitals. The leader of its Insurance Division is a Six Sigma Green Belt, and Premier’s website lists quite a few case studies from its owners (the various nonprofit hospitals) regarding the success use of Six Sigma.Premier also lists case studies using other methodologies — appears to quite “ecumenical”.Which, of course, raises larger questions: should organizations which recognize the use of Six Sigma also pursue “best practices” of other methodologies.I will definitely be watching the NIST Baldrige site when more details about the 2006 winners are released.Best regards,QualityColorado

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    #148131

    villageidiot
    Member

    Does  that  mean that SS is no-more valid or  is  it  an indication of “lack  of  efficiency” ??

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    #148140

    Clarity
    Participant

    All it means is that there are many different approaches to an organization’s process improvement initiatives and sometimes the Venn diagrams of Six Sigma and Baldrige overlap for specific organizations and sometimes they don’t.    As an MBB and a 2006 Baldrige Examiner, I saw at the Baldrige training at NIST in Gaithersburg this year quite a few of the examiners and those representing past Baldrige winning organizations having both a Baldrige and a Six Sigma focus – you can throw ISO, JCAHO, FDA QSR’s, and all sorts of other initiatives with a process improvement foundation in the pot also.   It’s not of value to say that one trumps or supersedes another unless one has regulatory implications that are non-optional, and both Six Sigma and Baldrige are optional pursuits for an organization.    

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    #148142

    qualitycolorado
    Participant

    Clarity,
     
    Well said!
     
    Best regards,
    QualityColorado

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    #148144

    Savage
    Participant

    Q.C. – just curious.  Where in CO are you?

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    #148146

    qualitycolorado
    Participant

    Matt, Hello!
     
    This morning (Wednesday, November), my location is under several inches of snow (!!!). 
     
    Of course, that is better than the several extra FEET of snow that the Colorado mountain communities are getting today! (unless, of course, you live to ski, in which case today is absolute heaven today!!)
     
    I live and work in one of the Front Range suburbs just south of Denver, in the shadows of the High Rockies.
     
    Best regards,
    QualityColorado

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    #148148

    Savage
    Participant

    Thanks.  I’m in Colo Spgs.

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    #148150

    qualitycolorado
    Participant

    Matt,
     
    The Springs is a terrific place — used to live there myself, MANY years ago.
     
    — QualityColorado

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    #148153

    Brit
    Participant

    Think QualityColorado has a point – wait a little bit before assuming that none of these use Six Sigma.  I can see why MESA wouldn’t – they had to spend how much on ISO? – probably a hard sell to increase the quality $ bucket for SS implementation. 
    Premier is a service industry providing improvement resources to healthcare – they do use and train six sigma (I know from first hand knowledge there – have a friend who works for them out of S.C.).  As a matter of fact – two posted jobs:

    Sr. Performance Engineer – St. Joseph, MO
    Sr. Performance Engineer – Spartanburg, SC, US.
    Have a “Six Sigma Green Belt – black belt ideal”  requirement for the position.
    And finally, you can go to the website of North Mississippi Medical Center and access their Malcomb Bladridge appication – it specifically sates on page 36:

    “Because we seek to also continuously enhance our performanceimprovement processes, we incorporated Six Sigma into our PI processes including training six leaders to the Black Belt level.”
    Ouch!

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    #148159

    Markert
    Participant

    It is fascinating to see the believers trying so desperately to find some small shred of justification for six sigma.
    Wake up !!!

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    #148162

    qualitycolorado
    Participant

    Phil,
    Thanks for your contribution to the thread.  I read the responses differently.
    I think most of the replies are noting that some Baldrige winners are (or may be) using Six Sigma, others perhaps not, and still others are ecumenical in their use of Six Sigma as wll as other methodologies.
     
    Best regards,
    QualityColorado

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    #148163

    Brit
    Participant

    Phil:
    Not trying to justify Six Sigma or not justify it.  It is good for some and not for others.  My philosophy is do what works – whatever that might be. I actually use a combination of six sigma, lean, TOC, et. al.
    What I was trying to point out is that the previous poster did not do his research before making his statement.  Sic Sigma may have not worked for you – sorry. As long as it is still saving my org cash and makign processes better, I’m using it.  I’m sure others will as well.  Close minded people will limit your organization.
    Wake up!!!

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    #148164

    Tony Bo
    Member

    Phil sounds like you are a “non-believer”……if so, what are you doing on the SS site? 

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    #148167

    Markert
    Participant

    Why – Helping save American industry.
    Have you ever wondered why Deming chose the title “Out of the Crisis”  ?  Six Sigma has returned American to another crisis.  No wonder the Japanese have leap-frogged America !
     

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    #148168

    Tony Bo
    Member

    Phil….
    I think you are way off…..to generalize like that, you are way off target.  Even if you are referring to the auto industry…it wasnt Six Sigma that is making american auto makers fall behind…its just bad business decisions (ie not listening/ knowing what the public wants in its autos)…and frankly they make an inferior product.  But otherwise, in other industries…..we pretty much can hold our own. 

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    #148172

    TVI
    Member

    What blather….those that know dont say and those that say dont know…..Grab your P&L, understand your processes and customers, get people excited, and pick any decent problem-solving method…..the point is to converge at a point of excellence, not take the same path….just shut up and get to work. So much quibbling over such insignificance….
     Kudos on your diplomacy skills QC.

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    #148174

    Ward
    Participant

    I agree here too … “and frankly they make an inferior product” … it may be because of their six sigma programs but you can’t blame six sigma.

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    #148177

    Tony Bo
    Member

    Again, I would more so blame it on bad business decisions by overpaid CEOs, and lazy union workers………
    Since we are all on the “blame Six Sigma” trail……I would add….there may have been a connection between Six Sigma and the Enron fiasco…….Six Sigma was not working well at Enron, which thus encouraged the CFO and CEO to create ficticious companies to hide the losses….(that of course was caused by a bad Six Sigma program).
     

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    #148184

    villageidiot
    Member

    Brit
    Agree  fully  with  your  point  of  view.
    Please submit  brief  outline ,indicating  how  to  encompass  the  3  methodologies SS-Lean & TOC,just  one  page.thanks  and  regards.

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    #148189

    Furneaux
    Member

    Yes Phil, wake up !!! Open up your mind to all the things that six sigma can bring you … you too can have floating and drifting processes … you too can donate millions to the SS Academy … you too can go down the tubes like Ford, GM and all the others even Dilbert knows about !!!  Wake up !!!!!!  You haven’t lived till you’re in the disaster zone !!!!!!!

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    #148192

    Brit
    Participant

    Why  I  should  do  that?

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    #148197

    Brit
    Participant

    Six Sigma and Enron?  You can’t be serious!  Please don’t feed Phil anymore – not sure why he hasn’t jumped on this one yet.
    TVI – nice reply – time to work.

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