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    AJ
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    I am trying to benchmark the many GB Training that are offerred and I am finding a disturbing variation in GB training lengths.  Some offer up to 3 weeks worth of GB training and some offer as low as one week.  Because they all attach GB level training, something tells me that either the longer courses are either more detailed or that the shorter classes are short changing the GB curriculum. 
    Does anyone have any thoughts on why some GB classes are much shorter than the others?  AND, if you were going to spend money on your potential GB candidates, would you want the shorter classes or the longer classes?  I think that some of these shorter classes are watering down the curriculum to meet customer demands.

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    #151656

    Lugbill
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    AJ-
    I am a MBB for my company and we do our own GB training internally.  Our course is 1 week long.  Outside training is usually much longer and more in depth.  We set up our training to go through material and tools that the GB will actually use.  Several tools a GB will not use at our cooperation unless a BB is assisting them.  Therefore, we do not spend a lot of time going over DOE and such.  We hit Define, Measure and Control phases fairly heavy and brief them on the remaining phases.  Right or wrong this is the way we have done it.  We have found the key is making sure they get involved in projects so they are able to apply.  The phase if you don’t use it you lose it is very much true!

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    #151657

    AJ
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    Thanks L for your feedback. It was very helpful.  Can I ask which industry your company is in? 
    Thanks,
    aj

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    #151662

    Lugbill
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    We are in the automotive industry.  Mainly seating.

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    #151665

    Allthingsidiot
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    Agree

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    #151669

    Herb
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    AJ … I attended a 1 week GB program at a customer’s site.  30 hours between long breaks and 1/2 day Friday.  The 20+/- 3 modules were taught by about 15 different instructors … ugh.
    My company’s GB program is 2 weeks for operational or transactional, then there’s 3 weeks for LDFSS GB classes.  Also instructors are 2-3 per week and of a higher caliber that what I witnessed with our customer’s program.
    Providing the practical tools needed for project work is key … DMAIC … and having graduates then apply the tools with mentoring belts is as important.  Learning the lingo and tools available will have terrific returns.
    Good Luck!
     

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    #151671

    Jamilah Haron
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    Applying the tools to a project is important. Everyone must come to class with a project. Classes are about 8 to 10 days, split into the phases DM_A_I_C. Class for each phase will be 2 to 3 days, and 3 to 4 weeks gap in between to allow GBs to apply the tools to a project. A key activity when using this approach is project review. The first day class for each phase starts with a project review where the GBs report the progress of their project. Needless to say, this approach requires top management support and commitment to remove roadblocks and minimize head-to-head confrontation between the MB/BB and higher positions in the company.

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    #151678

    10High
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    AJ
    We do our own training in my organisation (Financial Services).  The course is spread over 3 weeks (4 days, 3 days, 3 days) over about 3 months.  Requirements for entry onto the course are that each delegate has a project to work on, with agreement from a sponsor in the relevant business area.
    The training is spread over 3 months to allow delegates to use the tools with their project as they go along.
    We have one dedicated training resource (a BB) with other certified BBs (and trainees like myself) delivering training as well.
    Hope this helps

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