LSS Certification Info

ASQ might disagree with your statement that there is no standard for certification since they are the most recognized body for certifying six sigma professionals.  Granted, there are other sources, but the reputable ones still work through the ASQ model.  Either way, saying that there is no basis to  establish who is and is not certified six sigma professional is like saying you dont know who is an MBA or not, or who has a bachelors degree or not.  There are tons of studies that show wage seperation based on these credentials, what makes it any different finding the same information related to people owning six sigma credentials?

Also I would add that those who jump directly into the exam.without going through the course stages (or material) are fake persons!
Just my opinion 

Joe, our very own iSixSigma did a recent salary survey. Try to get your hands on it.

SJ, Darth’s input is good, as usual. However, recognize the iSS comp survey has nothing to do with certified or not; what ever that means. Do you understand my point? Cert. vs non-cert. is not a viable basis since you have no standard to judge against.

Still would like explanation of your cooment concerning MSA. How you know MSA is problem?

SigmaJoe’s stated objective is to compare the compensation levels of those certified in SS to those not certified in SS. Since there is no standard for certification, his measurement system is flawed since there is no clear line as to who is certifed and who is not. His measurements are inaccurate from the start because there is no means of being assured he is putting people in the correct bucket.
Fundamental to any data analysis is the assurance your data is correct. His will not be therefore any analysis of it will be flawed. Clear enough?

Stan, which magazine, I need to sharpen up my resume

By todays syandard certification is clear. Have certificate you certified. Don’t have certificate not certified. Complicating question by confusing good black belt with bad black belt.

Robert,
The last time I checked, Gary was not in the market for anthing. Therefore I don’t charge him anything.

So, $15K more annually for being certified.
Let’s see should I pay $99 to Stan or say, $25K to a traditional training firm like, say, Global Productivity Solutions. Keeping in mind the great guru Carnell said it doesn’t matter what happens in the classroom, you learn on the floor anyway…
Hhmmm, which way should I go? Hhmmm….

Clear to me. You not understand MSA.

Oh, OK JH, see ya around.

I’m sorry, but I wouldn’t consider ASQ much of a standard, anymore at least.  They’ve “dummed down” the requirements to a state that anyone with a couple of firing synapses should be able to pass the test.
I think that the ISSSP Profiler would be a better “gold standard” but it is too costly.  Companies don’t want to pay, just to have their people snatched away, and individuals find it too costly to take a shot on just to find they are at a level below where they thought they were.
Just my humble opinion.

Many companies here certified to ISO standard but quality is not all the same. Same issue. Cerification is clear. Issue is quality of certification. Not the question asked.

Oh yeah. Dey fly by night. Be outta here in no time. No can believe they be on top seller list for 2 years. Holy cow!

Cute, Stan, cute. Do you realize not one of your posts to this string has had anything to do with the topic. Your sole purpose appears to be hassling me. And you’re considered a leader here? On what basis?

I assure you this isnt Stan, although I am starting to feel the same for you as he does. You have made no meaningful contribution at all, only regurgitating the same useless information. Continueing to bash Carnell for a symantic, for no reason at all, and you just cant leave it alone

Don R, Don Robert, Brandon, whoever you are.
Your point is wrong. And this is why. Regardless of certificate or not, one can assertain whether a person has completed some form of Six Sigma training. For this, companies simply pay more for it, how much more is another discussion. So to continue with Carnells point, it really doesn’t matter what happens in the classroom, you have completed training, what you do with it is another situation all together.
To say that because no certifying body exist, you can’t perform this analysis is arrogant and quit simply wrong. A saw a Dr post last week in which he said past data was meaningless. Well hell, all data is past tense, your comment recks of the same stinch.
 

I am surprised his son hasn’t had him committed. Scot, I’ll testify in your behalf.

I wondered how long it would take before someone figured out I was
calling him a reindeer (in text message english of course).