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  • March 1, 2006 at 7:44 pm #42573

    franz
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    Hello all,
    I’m currently involved in a SS program where we have some MBBs with different profiles. Some are managing (on a hierarchic standpoint) BBs whitout coaching them on SS (which may sound surprising), others are coaching BBs without any management responsibilities on them.
    Our intention is to upgrade the “managing MBBs” to the point they are able to deliver coaching to BBs on to of their management responsibilities.
    Their answer to this plan is : ok, why not, but we cannot manage BBs AND coach them at the same time.
    Did you experience such a situation ? Thank you for your advices !
    REgards
    Franz
     
     

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    March 1, 2006 at 7:58 pm #134490

    Ken Feldman
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    Your MBBs are lazy and should be stripped of their MBB Belts…if there was one.  Of course MBBs should be coaching BBs.  If not them, then who?…Green Belts? Management?  I suggest you fire the bums and get you some good hardworking MBBs.

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    March 1, 2006 at 8:16 pm #134492

    Mr IAM
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    Franz, 
    If you decide to take Darth up on his advice – I’m available for hire.  Any chance your in the USA, Mid-West area?
    Actually – I don’t know how you can seperate “manage” from “coaching” how are those two things different?  I think good managers coach their people regardless of SS / BB / MBB.
    Or, are you saying that they think they don’t have “time” to coach BB’s because they have to manage some functional business area with other direct reports + BB’s?  Even so… saying you don’t have time to coach people sounds lazy…
    Cheers!

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    March 1, 2006 at 8:17 pm #134494

    McD
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    Although I might not express it so colorfully, I tend to agree with Darth on this one.  But it almost sounds as if the problem goes deeper than that. MBBs need a deep understanding of the methodology and tools so they can guide the BBs.  There seems to be a trend for some organizations to anoint managers as MBBs with no preparation.  This leaves the BBs without any real support, and is a symptom of a pretty severely broken deployment.
    If you can get away with firing the bums, as Darth suggests, then by all means.  But I suspect you may have a more difficult problem.
    –McD
     

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    March 1, 2006 at 8:21 pm #134495

    AJ
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    That is an odd statement from your MBBs.  The caliber of potential MBBs are to have experiences in both coaching and teaching SS as well as have had at least mid managerial positions.  At GE, we select high potential candidates (former BBs) who have had at least managed direct reports, if not P&Ls.  Therefore, our MBBs have the responsibility of not only exceeding business metrics but also mentoring BBs to be future leaders.  You may want to reestablish the vision and goal statements of the SS function to your MBBs.

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    March 1, 2006 at 10:43 pm #134497

    midwesterner
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    Where in the Midwest are you?   And more importantly do you have any medical device or pharmaceutical experience?    If you’d like to respond to [email protected] please do so.   Your postings are usually not nearly as offensive as that Darth guy’s and frequently as on target.   But that’s just my sensitive yet ever so humble opinion.  

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    March 1, 2006 at 11:44 pm #134498

    Mikel
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    Yea that Darth guy – what a jerk.

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    March 2, 2006 at 12:30 am #134499

    midwesterner
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    While the comment about Darth was intended as good natured kidding, I feel compelled to point out to you that the word “Yea” is a cheer and the word “Yeah” is uttered in agreement with something.   But I do understand that you can’t be all things to all people, and it’s a stretch for you to be technically correct in your Six Sigma advice, civil, and correct in word selection and usage.   So if we get two out of three, I’ll take the first two over grammar and syntax.       

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    March 2, 2006 at 1:00 am #134500

    Ken Feldman
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    I have lots of Pharma experience.  Would you like to see my resume?  I need a job since Victoria Secret turned me down….something stupid about me not fitting into the culture….just imagine.
    Sensitively,Darth

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    March 2, 2006 at 2:30 am #134502

    midwesterner
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    Yes.  As a matter of fact, I’d very much like to see your CV.    Interdisciplinary track or not, I’m sure the Deming reference in large bold font would be compelling.  

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    March 2, 2006 at 2:55 am #134504

    Ken Feldman
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    C V
    Here I am with Dr. Deming receiving my Interdisciplinary Degree.  We later went out to a topless bar where he told me some great stories about his years in Japan and all the Geisha girls he met.  This was of course a few years before my rebirth as the caped heavy breathing villian I am today.

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    March 2, 2006 at 4:25 pm #134528

    Mr IAM
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    Hmm.. I’m not sure if that is a compliment or not?  Being as frequently on target as Dr. D?  I suppose I’ll take it as one :-)
    Madison, Wi – or Milwaukee Wi?
    I have medical device manfucturing experience – Class 3.  No Pharma however.
    Cheers!

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    March 2, 2006 at 5:15 pm #134534

    midwesterner
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    As anticipated, a most compelling CV.  Thank you. 
     
    I believe there’s a place for you in the highly profitable pharmaceutical industry as we have been known, on occasion, to take esteemed scientists and thought leaders of many fields on similar retreats for in depth consultations, thought provoking discussions and bonding all to a darkly lit head banging beat.   It’s social science in its most pure and statistics free form – or at least the statistics follow a predictable two digit three set, high-low-medium format.        

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    March 2, 2006 at 8:34 pm #134550

    Mikel
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    Darth,
    That is you on the right – correct?

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    March 2, 2006 at 9:34 pm #134555

    Ken Feldman
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    STAN!!!  You have his picture on your desk so you know darn well I am on the left.

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