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    Seguin Jr
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    I’ve been asked to provide Master Black Belt training for the executives within our business. The intent is to have them better equipped to make decisions and lead more effectively. They will not take on traditional MBB roles. Has anyone done something like this? I am looking for ideas for how to go about providing this training and what that training may look like.

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    #189866

    gbreader
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    My organization recently held a one day customized off-site Six Sigma Champion Training for our Executives and Departmental Directors. It was condensed in to one day and customized for our business requirements. The focus was on Leadership and Process and how Six Sigma aligns with our business model. It gave the entire Leadership team an overview of Six Sigma and how their roles as Champions are truly change agents for continuous improvement. Our business model was broken down using DMAIC, which gave everyone a better understanding, as it was customized to our organization. Topics discussed were: Project selection, coaching and mentoring, leading change, paradigms and possibilities, and leadership attitude. I’m not sure if that would be too basic for your Executive team, but our Executives and Directors came out of it with a much better understanding of Six Sigma and the impact their roles have, since it was customized to our business. Not sure if that helps, but it is an idea.

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    #189867

    nsequin, I imagine your objective is good however the name you are giving this instruction session is not correct. An MBB is the pinnacle of technical competence and has skills to lead instruction. These are not skills one needs to have replicated at the executive level.

    As mentioned by the second poster (can’t see their name since I can’t see the string in this view), you are likely looking for what is commonly known as Executive Training or, perhaps, Champion Training – although I would argue Champion is not the proper skill set either.

    Write to me and I’ll give you some suggestions and options.

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    #189868

    Cone
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    Pinnacle?

    Hardly.

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    #189869

    Thank you for such a meaningful and enlightening contribution Gary. Where would we all be without people such as you to guide us?

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    #189871

    jaeson
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    Hello,

    I listen many times about the MBB training but not understand the exact meaning of this. One of my friend want to this and want some advice about that.

    Regards,
    Olivia

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    #189874

    Cone
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    Robert,

    Sorry you are so easily offended, but MBB is a learner, not a pinnacle. Anyone who believes they are at a pinnacle is not learning.

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    #189875

    Gary, I don’t see an expression of offense on my part. I was being sarcastic about the meaninglessness of your post. You have now expressed what you meant so we can go somewhere with that.

    And, I agree with you… learning is never complete. However, an MBB designation is the highest dispensed in our industry so I would consider them to represent the greatest amount of technical skills available. Would you not agree?

    Additionally it is certainly not anything resembling MBB competency that one would want to take to their executive team… totally different skill set. There are executive introductory courses available for that market with the proper content.

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    #189886

    Cone
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    The MBB designation, like the BB designation is fairly easily dispensed. Most who put the title on their business card are not competent.

    I am not the least bit impressed with 90% of the people calling themselves MBB’s.

    BTW, saying that MBB’s are the pinnacle was meaningless. You obviously don’t know many.

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    #189887

    Hhmm, Gary, talk about taking offense.

    I’ve known in the neighborhood of 50 or 60 MBB’s in my time in this industry. I would say they were all highly competent and many where outstanding.

    Would you mind sharing what size data sample you used to draw your conclusions? You’re throwing a rather broad swath when stating “Most who put the title on their business card are not competent.” To make such a statement I would guess one would have to have data on say, 10,000 or so MBB’s. My bet is you don’t know anywhere near that many. Instead of being SS about it you are tossing out your own prejudiced opinion.

    I’m sorry you’ve experienced incompetnecy in your dealing with some MBB’s; however I suggest you not trash them all over your very limited experience.

    Yet, relative to my initial post I still hold that MBB is the highest technical ranking we give someone in this industry – that was my point.

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    #189892

    Norbert
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    Please do NOT call it MBB training, but “Executive Green Belt” or something smiliar.

    We run Executive Workshops/ Trainings very successfully over the last years – but always designed to the roles of the participants.

    For Executives we explain what they can do to support and drive the Programme, to understand the different roles and Six Sigma concepts (high level) and how to select projects aligned with the business strategy.

    We show project success examples from efficiciency projects, but also from revenue-up projects and product/ service innovation projects.

    We talk about the integration of six sigma into process management environment and Corporate KPI systems and Career & Performance Management Systems …

    We avoid poperpoint as much as possible and run these sessions in a workshop environment with a lot of interaction and a business case study (simulation).

    But we would never call of “MBB Training for Executives” because MBBs have a totally different role and time dedication to the Programme …

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    #189894

    Big Al
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    Interesting thread of exchanges.

    Suggest an (L)SS approach:

    D What’s the problem? (My interpretation, based on an assumption, so needs to be tested) Our senior leaders want (and need) to, but don’t, know how they can best support the people running improvement projects.

    M What data do we base this assertion on? ?????

    A What’s the root cause of the problem? (Again assumption to be tested) They are not familiar with their role or the high level overview of the DMAIC/LSS process

    I Solution – Develop a program that provides the information/data they need

    C Sustain – monitor time spent on projects by execs, number of completed projects, survey support level received by project leaders, follow up with execs on whether training met their needs etc.

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    #189896

    Cone
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    First this is not an industry.

    Second, my sample size is in the thousands. I have data and I understand Six Sigma.

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    #189897

    OK, Gary. Let’s say you have data on thousands; hard to believe but let’s concede that. What is your measurement system? Against what standard are you judging these MBB’s?

    PS: There are a lot of people that would be challenged to accept there is not a SS industry. A whole bunch of us have been practicing it and making a living out of it for quite some time.

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    #189905

    Cone
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    And my point is it is a meaningless designation, most that hold the title are not that good.

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    #189906

    Gary, this discussion is likely going way too far however you cannot make the statement “most that hold the title are not that good.”

    You can say “most you have met are not that good.” Or you can say “the standards are lacking to assess a true MBB.” Or you can say “I think I’m a whole lot better than anyone else.”

    But you don’t have enough information nor do you have an accurate enough measurement system to make the statement you’ve made.

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    #189908

    Nwajei
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    Robert: Gary is a troll. Plain and simple. His responses are meaningless and inflammatory. I’m sure he has the data to prove otherwise – he obviously has the data to prove whatever he chooses.

    Suggest you just let it go and move on to a more productive topic… Preferably one where Gary won’t be involved. Although, trolls being what they are, I’m sure he’ll step in where least required.

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    #189909

    Thank you Frank. You are correct. I’ve more than made my point and it appears Gary will not change his position.

    I’m a bit surprised more MBB’s weren’t offended by him. Perhaps they are busy getting things done and don’t have time to engage him..

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    #189911

    Cone
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    Robert, what are your credentials?

    You don’t have the credibility to get all huffed up when someone calls your uninformed statement of MBB’s being a “pinnacle”.

    More MBB’s are offended because they know I’m right.

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