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  • #51867

    Darth
    Participant

    Ms. Harper,There appears to be a lot of hijacking of names lately making the Forum more chaotic than usual. While you are formulating a new set of etiquette guidelines please consider preventing such antics. I know you have the technology. One possible solution is to have a poster register under up to five “names” and thus you can monitor the isp to prevent such nonsense from occurring.

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    #181309

    GB
    Participant

    I belong to several online communities that require registration/logins…I think that could be a potential solution.

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    #181318

    Stevo
    Member

    Dibs on:

    Stevo
    Mullet -head
    Student
    Candi
    Stan
    Stevo
     

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    #181324

    Jessica Harper
    Participant

    Thanks for the ideas on how to cut down on folks using the names of frequent posters. We are aware of the problem and have redoubled our efforts in tracking such situations and taking action when abuse occurs. If you have specific concerns, please write us at editorial.com (at) isixsigma.com.

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    #181325

    Darth
    Participant

    The sad part is that you and the rest of the staff have to waste your time playing nursemaid and cop instead of working on how to further the advancement of Six Sigma. While the idea of an opensource approach to the Forum is commendable it might be time to move towards something a bit more sophisticated. Maybe it is time for another breakfast meeting with Fake Mike :-).

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    #181327

    GB
    Participant

    a registration/login feature would semi-automate the moderation process.   If it’s a cheap/free fix, go for it.

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    #181328

    Nolan
    Participant

    http://www.lean.org has a robust forum and next to none of the junk in it…no apparent homework questions, sales promotions, insults, no Stan…simply straight forward discussions on topic.
    Not so sure this is because rules are any different; just a difference in the styles/attitudes, whatever….of the posters. Take and look and see the difference.

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    #181330

    Brian M
    Participant

    I’ve always been a big fan of phpbb for forum solutions.http://www.phpbb.com/Not affiliated with them in any way, but have been using them for years.

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    #181331

    Darth
    Participant

    Well, one obvious difference is the need to sign in with a password and email address before posting. That makes a big difference. It would solve the hijacking problem right there. Biggest thread on the first page was for a “5S Exercise”. Guess there must be some deep discussions taking place. One of the longest threads I found was for the 7 basic tools. Not sure how many hits they get a month or how wide their audience is but this Forum covers a much wider array of topics including Lean, has about a half a million hits per month and is certainly international in scope. It is a nice site for a specific audience.

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    #181333

    luke skywalker
    Participant

    So basically, the lean guys are the Neidermeyers and we are the Blutos, Hoovers and Otters at Improvement U?

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    #181335

    Nolan
    Participant

    Darth, you switched topics again. I wasn’t commenting on breath or depth of topic matter. I was commenting on ettiquette.

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    #181337

    GB
    Participant

    Finally, someone picked up on it!!!!!
    Luke, You got it nailed.
    TOGA!!!!!!!

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    #181338

    Brian M
    Participant

    Can I be D-Day?:)

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    #181339

    Darth
    Participant

    Les, I am sorry you are having trouble taking other than a linear approach and seeing things as linked. The etiquette issue does not stand alone but might be linked to the fact that entry to the site to post and the content of the Forum may have an impact on the etiquette that is displayed by its members. Stop making one liners and add some breath to your comments.

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    #181340

    Darth aka Professor Jennings
    Participant

    Nice insight son. I would surely…not Shirley…be in favor of adding our favorite character’s name to our existing one. At least until that gets old. So, sign up and grab your name now and start using it before someone else does. I nominate Ms. Harper to be Dean Wormer since she probably has most of us on double secret probation already. Here is a link to the cast.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077975/fullcredits

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    #181346

    Nolan
    Participant

    OK, I’ll work on switching topics and mixing logic trails within my posts. Be patient, it may take some time for me to acquire that skill. May have to take a “classroom” course on that.

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    #181349

    Darth
    Participant

    Heck, ya could probably take an online course and be educated in how to do it in 10 minutes :-).

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    #181351

    Mikel
    Member

    You are wrong about no Stan. Wanna bet whether I can be there?

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    #181367

    GB
    Participant

    I’m there as well…not much activity though…only so much you can wring out of linebalancing…

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    #181368

    Mikel
    Member

    I think the Animal House analogy is right.
    Cyger is the Dean.

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    #181409

    SandMan
    Member

    Wow, I was not expecting that response from, of all people,…i-six sigma. One who leads by example and feeds the innocent brains of improvement with “we will redouble our efforts to tracking down” sounds far too much like corporate America … I echo others in this post, that ask for control of the root cause, especially with today’s technology, this could be a quick fix rather than double effort to police…?
    It would be interesting for ISS to post their improvement process for us minions to admire and help along this improvement path, after all… we are the customer…. right?

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    #181416

    GB
    Participant

    Sandman,
    You are wrong…We are not the Customer…at least not of the paying variety.
    We haven’t poured a thin red dime into Isix’s coffers, our collective (grr…) wishes/complaints don’t-and shouldn’t carry too much weight.   We are guests in anothers house.  
    That said,
    I’d happily pay a reasonable annual subscription fee that would, say, give me access to an open marketplace, or enhanced content (including a registration/sign up app for the forum).   I’d love to help do my part to keep isix afloat.

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    #181418

    SandMan
    Member

    Ok, so define customer… One who buys a product or service… but informally we are someone that i-sixsigma has to deal with… use of others services for gain or interest = Customer. Free or paying customer we are still using this service…As to think that no-one else clicks on the ads is somewhat shortsighted. We all support this site right? Then click away!Anyway, my point was to be blinded by the wonderful example of root cause review and improvement from ISS using it’s own experience and feedback from (non-paying) customers… :o)Thanks.

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    #181430

    Customer
    Participant

    I would we say we are one of the customers at this site. We may not pay for use of the site but without our visits then they wouldn’t have the paying type.
     
    Just a thought

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    #181436

    GB
    Participant

    I hear you…I lean towards the angle that some of the usual suspects are in fact service providers to this site.  Not me, I just piss people off from atop my high horse, buggy-whipping innocents at every stride…
    But the Darth’s, Stan’s, Mike’s, Stevo’s, Robert B’s and the like provide a serious draw for Isix.
    I would happily pay for a reasonably priced membership in support of this community.

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    #181444

    Darth
    Participant

    That will be a tough call for Fake Mike and his staff. Should the Forum remain a wide open free for all, emphasis on free. Or should it become a bit more sophisticated and professional community. That is a strategic decision that has to tie back to the owners’ mission statement. Personally, I believe what FM has done to date is great. When he started, the industry was in its development and a bit chaotic. Now that it has grown and matured…not the Posters, the industry..it might be time for a more mature Forum. Using registration and passwords will allow the more serious practioners access while discouraging the riff raff. Creating a fee based Super Users section for those seeking a straight answer and a chance to “chat” with real experts might be appropriate at this time in the evolution of the Forum. Currently, I don’t believe the Forum is tapping into senior folks or Deployment Champions who often need some help. Or even the solo MBB who would like to bounce an idea around. If iSixSigma is to become the industry thought leader now is the time to start putting the elements in place. If not, someone always comes along and the current Forum may become irrelevant.

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    #181458

    Mikel
    Member

    Not a tough call at all. Mike likes what he has and so do I. I am as
    sophisticated as I want to be.Besides we need to keep the price of admission low or we would
    miss delightful folks like Les, Joe BB, Steve B (aka “can I babysit
    for you?”), …

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    #181461

    Darth
    Participant

    Stan and sophisticated are oxymorons. Or as Les would say…just plain moron. And Stan would say, “Just give me the oxy and stop talking”. By the way, it turns out that the three you mentioned are all the same person.

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    #181474

    Chris Seider
    Participant

    interesting turn of conversation….
    I guess the customer is the paying clients with the ad space and the non-paying customer entering the curious world of six sigma with sightings of Stan, Darth, Mike, and other individuals.  If this site adds value, which we do when we aren’t rehashing old topics with a version of rework (LOL) and transforming the 0’s and 1’s to state thoughts and someone wants to pay for it….I guess BMG and others are my customer….!
    Stupid question on my part….Sustainability–how does anyone know the rules when they change?  In fact, at some point this thread will die out also so only those of us who had the privilege of seeing this string will know someting has changed?  Consider having a pop up window or optional etiquette details clearly found on the discussion forum page (e.g. right under the word discussion forum). 
    Cheers

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    #181523

    SandMan
    Member

    So why not have an “Answer service” like Google Answers used to be. User posts a qn in the premium section to the ‘experts’ and offers a reward / payment, stated up front, for the best answer. Some ‘premium members’ or ‘experts’ could get some kick-back instead of spending hours at the keys mesmerized by the blinking Six Sigma ads, comical humour and hissy fits. Although the latter pays for itself sometimes…I’d gladly pay $5 to read about Stan winding up members… (sorry Stan). :o)Don’t you just love Fridays.

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