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    Honestjer
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    Just keep this in mind. I work for GE. here, sick sigma has become our only tool. you can’t do anything without doing it in this format. very time consuming and wasteful of most people’s time. at ge, we are trying to replace experience and skills with statistics. great for young, no nothings, not so great for those who have been there and done that. If you are wanting to put this in your company, don’t make it a requirement of employement, like ge has done. figure out who, what functions, in your organization can benefit from this and leave the others alone. if you try to force it on every level of the organization, like ge has done, you will find, like at ge, a large body of folks that resent the process. 90 percent of the people at ge make fun of this process. we all realze what it has become, and we are waiting for the day for Jeff to wake up and take the burden off us. at ge sick sigma stops real inovation because no one wants to have to go through the rigor of the charts and presentations involved in doing one of these projects.
    take my advice. pick and chose the elements form this process that will benefit you. do not let this grow into this nightmare it has become at GE.

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    #71331

    Mu
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    I like your expression “sick sigma”.

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    #71332

    Leung
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    How is Jeff?

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    #71410

    Tom Black
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    Can we get other opinions from GE people?  What is the good and the bad?  How would you change it?
    Tom Black, MBB

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    #71416

    Galia
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    I am also a GE employee, and it sounds to me like the GE employee that originated this discussion had a very bad personal experience.  It is very unfortunate.   I have seen first hand his type of attitude many times already, and he is probably right that there are many in GE that do not believe in the methodology.  To that I have to say the following:  In order to survive, stay competitive and satisfy your customers every business must seek self improvement!  There are many ways to do this of course, and Six Sigma is just the way that GE selected to use.  It is not rocket science but just a method to get something vital done.  The sour comment from the originator of this discussion does brings to light the basic problem of GE’s decision to embrace Six Sigma:  it required a major culture change to implement it, and GE is still working on this.  This is a fact that cannot be ignored nor minimized, and is something that any other company that makes this decision should pay close attention to.
    I also want to point out that this attitude is most common among “old timers”, set in their ways, and not the A players in GE.  Six Sigma has forced people in GE to clearly identify problems, communicate them to leadership, put measures around it, analyze all relevant information, propose and select a solution, get it approved, implement it, and then prove that the improvement was sucessful and that the time and money spent was not a waste.  This required additional work that was not required before and with it came “accountability”.  Therefore the resistance to it.
    I firmy believe that GE’s decision to try to get all employees certified, starting with the leadership, is part of the solution to make that culture change happen.  Without the leadership team that believes in Six Sigma, that knows the “how to”, and that leads by example, implementation of Six Sigma will always be hampered by those who do not believe in this way of doing things.

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    #71417

    GCF
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    Continued downsizing at Honeywell and GE overshadows any process improvement such as Six Sigma.

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    #71425

    Ryu
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    I completely agree with Galia.
    Although, even now, I don’t think Six Sigma is the only best way, GE has chosen.
    Six Sugma is one of the ways companies could chose, but basically employees don’t have the right to select.
    If you don’t want to use it, want to deny corporate decision, it’s so hard to stay the company for long time.

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    #71427

    P
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    I also work for GE. Its unfortunate that you have not really experienced the benefits of implementing Six Sigma. Looks like you are wrongly motivated by someone or some incident.
    Jack and Jeff are no fools to enforce this methodology and ask everyone to spend time on it. It does work for sure. Ofcourse its not the only way..but its defenitely one of the best ways leading to success.

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    #71598

    Codeone
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    Not an A player.  give me a break.  I have been a code one or two my entire life with GE.  And from your answer, It is obvisous that I probably have more years with GE than you do on the planet. 
    The major difference between us “Old timers” that do not embrase sick sigma is we have actually delivered a good or a service somewhere along the way.  I can use past experience, common sense or sense of smell and come up with a solution to a problem, as good or better, than one that has to go through all of the total bull crap involved in the six sigma approach.  the major problem is most of the old folks have gotten fed up with all of the sycophants running around like the eunichs in the old kingdoms, not smart enough to know the truth, but selfish enough to gloom on to anything that gets them in the promotion scheem.  Six sigma is a joke.  Motorola found out.  cost them big time.  I just hope someone comes along with enough clout to finally say, “this is stupid”.  but probably not. 

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