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  • #35341

    Gursimran Singh
    Participant

    Hi,
            I want to know is there any way I can do six-sigma course individually   without my company support because right now my company has no plans to train us in six- sigma but still I want to do it
    And will it be recognized??
    Thank You

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    #99063

    mman
    Participant

    Yes .First purchase the famous book:the SS way.Study it .Try to calculate your DPMO.Then try to establish  small team for a special assignment.Establish a work  Charter.Follow DMAIC.Try to achieve  some targets in short time .Train and Coach your staff.Show your results to your top management.Try to convince them.Celebrate  small success.Be optimistic……………………etc……GOOD luck

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    #99066

    Gursimran Singh
    Participant

    Thanks but could u give details and do you mean six-sigma way and who is the author of this

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    #99068

    mman
    Participant

    Hi Singh:This is really an excellent book with  much details (step by step),It indicates  “how  GE ,Motorola ,and other  Top Companies Are Honing Their Performance.It has several Authors:P.Pande,R.Neuman and R.Cavanagh.The Publisher is McGrow-Hill.   Good Luck

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    #99075

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Gursimran,
    You just did a post where you felt it was easier to do SS in a smaller company. Are you a little confused?
    Good luck.

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    #99082

    Ron
    Member

    Yes,
     
    The best source for what you seek is through the ASQ training program. It is recognized and more stable than most other offerings.
    There are premiere offerings such as Six Sigma Academy but they are more expensive.

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    #99104

    Gursimran Singh
    Participant

     
    Mike ,
                   No, I am not confused I have around 7 yrs of corporate experience with an M.B.A also I was running my own Business pratically I can consult the other business in ss or any other domain. But I haven’t gone thru structured way of training and sometime I am not able to understand the jargons, which we use in ss, so it is more of theory need than practical
    Warm Regards,
    Gursimran
     

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    #99121

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Gursimran,
    The MBA doesn’t have anything to do with it. The experience is in…..? There is a huge difference in “practically” running your own business and actually doing it – particularly when it comes time to pay the bills. Unless that experience is with SS it is also irrelevant to the question asked earlier.
    Actually to justify your response you need experience in both large and small deployments. You also have a sample size issue. Look up the formula for confidence interval and put your number of deployments in the formula. It should be wide enough to pitch a dog through.
    If you are not a BB, GB, MBB or whatever how can you possibly speak with any authority about implementation when you have not even done a project?

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    #99123

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Gursimran,
    The MBA is from IIC, IIA or IIB?

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    #99126

    Gursimran Singh
    Participant

    Hi Mike,
                   That is what my real concern is that when I was doing my business my partner was BB and he was taking care of S-S rest was taken care by me so while implementing that I have learned little about s-s even now where I am working I am helping my top management in a ss project about employee retention project the company has given me that project because of my good operational experience in that domain and by working in this project I am learning about s-s but the company was not ready to train me individually with all the necessary resources I mean in structured manner  so that is why I was asking if I train myself individually
    And as that post is concerned I was confident about that because it was related to my experience and I have seen success in small business.
    Warm Regards,
    Gursimran
     

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    #99127

    Gursimran Singh
    Participant

    You mean Indian institute of management Calcutta, ahemdabad , ban galore?

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    #99129

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Gursimran,
    Yes those are the places.

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    #99130

    Gursimran Singh
    Participant

    Hi Mike,
                   I have done my mba from symbiosis it is also one of premier b-school of India and right now I am doing my 6 months executive program in management from IIM Calcutta 
    Warm Regards,
    Gursimran

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    #99132

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Gursimran,
    I thought Symbiosis was primarily IT. Regardless the part of your answer I was looking for was there “…..it is also one of premier b-school of India…..”  it was fairly predictable.
    You still have not addressed the qualifications beyond the MBA which has nothing to do with it.

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    #99139

    SSNewby
    Member

    I think it is fair to think of the question as having been asked and answered.

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    #99140

    Gursimran Singh
    Participant

    Hi Mike,
                      The course which I am doing right now from IIM C deals with strategic management and TQM and also it deals with finance and operations and I have to do  2 projects on the basis of this you need to be minimum M.B.A with 6 yrs of corporate experience  for doing this course

     

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    #99167

    AbetF
    Participant

    Singh,
    To have a successful sixsigma deployment, it must be a top down implementation not the other way around.
    I’m sure even if you will know sixsigma methodology, you cannot make it. Top management of your company should know first what sixsigma is and the benefits it will give to their company.
    The key word here is ” support ” without it, it will fail.
     
    abetf

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    #99168

    Anonymous
    Guest

    Many people believe the Crosby nonsense … how do you think six sigma started? It started in the engineering office and on the shop floor; not in any management office. Most managers are astute enough to see the advantage of reduced scrap, lower costs, and improved reliability, but it takes creative engineers, technicians, and operators to make it happen – people who really care and take pride in what they are doing – not some jumped up four week old Blackbelt,  who has never been responsible for a process, or even knows how the product works.

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    #99175

    mman
    Participant

    Excellent Andy:Just my opinion,But how to convince all those CEO?
                                                                         rEGARDS

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    #99177

    Anonymous
    Guest

    Hi Mman,
    By creating islands of excellence. What CEO would fail to be impressed by results. Why does it always have to be a ‘company wide,’ top down, six month’s of planning exercise. Let’s go improve something today!
    I’ll give you an example: I recently worked for a company that manufacturers miniature antenna. The antenna are coated and 3-D patterned with electo- chemical copper. One day there was a huge yield loss due to ‘lifting copper’ when the top of the miniature co-axe is soldered onto the copper track and most people assumed it was due to an ‘adhesion’ problem.
    Everyone was in a panic because this problem was a recurring nightmare, and were checking the deposition chemistry, the substrate, cleaning, chemical passivation, solder temperatures, etc.
    So while this was going on we decided to ‘observe the process,’ and guess what we found … at one stage where a robot inserts a sleeve up the centre of the antenna the ‘sleeve’ was pushed up so high that it actually delaminated the copper from the top of the antenna. Yes, the original diagnosis was correct, but for the wrong reason. But this part of the process had not changed fro the past fice years – no-one had ever checked it!
     I’ve seen similar situations countless times before. What does it take to go and map out the process and observe what’s going on at each step. Just my opinion …
    Cheers,
    Andy

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    #99213

    Gursimran Singh
    Participant

     
    According to you first I should show result to management by showing them where we can improve the efficiency , I agree with that but Andy my problem is that I have shown them the results with help of  data drilling  and showing figures on excel sheet and management also agree with that but they are not taking initiative to train me in six sigma.
    And I my attitude is that if things are not happening for you do not crib about it instead utilize your energy in making things happen for you and start looking for solution.
    Warm Regards,
    Gursimran Singh

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    #99217

    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Gursimran,
    Well I think you’ve got the right attitude. If things aren’t happening for you … utilize your energy and start looking for your own solution. For example, if you can’t attend a course, buy a book and if and when you’re stuck ask someone in this forum for assistance – they’re a generous lot really!
    Good luck,
    Andy

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    #99219

    Gursimran Singh
    Participant

    Hi Andy,
                    Could you suggest me some good book to start with??
     
    Warm Regards,
    Gursimran

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    #99221

    Diaconu
    Participant

    Andy
    But that’s not Six Sigma that’s just good engineering right ? I’ve got around to the thinking that it’s better to train good people in SS and send them back out to improve whatever they can improve whenever they can improve it. They or the process owner will come up with ‘Six Sigma’ projects as they do so. There is no need for special brainstorming sessions or committees etc just a clear mandate and direction to go out and do what you’re good at will bring the benfits. Plus you’ll get to communicate with the shop floor guys much better.
    Six Sigma teaches very little about project identification. You just need to get out there and do it as you correctly point out.
    Mia

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    #99230

    Anonymous
    Guest

    Hi Mia,
    Quite right … there is no reason why things can’t be done in parallel.
    Cheers,
    Andy

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    #99232

    Anonymous
    Guest

    Gursimran,
    I would be happy to .. please tell me what are requirements are?
    Regards,
    Andy

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    #99244

    GursimranSingh
    Participant

    Hello Andy,
                          Just consider me beginner on the basis of that suggest me some good book

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    #99264

    Anonymous
    Guest

    Gursimran,
    My personal choice would be:
    Six Sigma for Electronics Design and Manufacturing (Professional Engineering)by Sammy G. Shina
    Transactional Six Sigma and Lean Servicing: Leveraging Manufacturing Concepts to Achieve World-Class Serviceby Betsi Harris Ehrlich
    Good luck!
    Andy

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    #99272

    Gursimran Singh
    Participant

    Hi Andy,
                  But right know i am working in IT Services and mostly my background is in services sector which consists of call centers, Fast food chain  i have no experince in manufacturing. suggest me on that domain

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    #99285

    Anonymous
    Guest

    This is why I asked you for your requirements … you just stated you were a beginner … read the section on QFD.

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