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    fake accrington alert
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    DEO with RSM (RMS stands  for what?)
    What  is  the  Non-parametric  statistic (in brief)?
    Explain the  smulation  with  the  Monte-Carlo Method (in  brief)?
    DVT :stands  for  what?
    MVT :stands  for  what?
    Thanks  and  Best Regards 

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    #161318

    Mikel
    Member

    Deo is any of the following -God
    Deo (comic), an anthropomorphic webcomic by Grimal
    Deodorant
    Deutsche Evangelische Oberschule, a German school in CairoRSM is any of the following -RSM International, a worldwide network of professional services
    firms providing tax, accounting, consulting, and specialist advisory
    services
    RSM McGladrey, a tax, accounting and consulting firm based in
    Bloomington, Minnesota, USA
    R. Stevie Moore, an American singer-songwriter
    Rajah Solaiman Movement, a Filipino Islamic terrorist organisation
    Rancho Santa Margarita, California, a city in California, USA
    Regimental Sergeant Major, a warrant officer appointment in the
    British and most Commonwealth armies and the Royal Marines
    Religious Order of the Sisters of Mercy, an order of Catholic women
    Renault Samsung Motors, a South Korean motor manufacturer
    Republic of San Marino (ISO country code)
    Resource Standard Metrics, a Software metric tool
    Response surface methodology, the use of a set of designed
    experiments to obtain an optimal response
    Restock Machine, on the Neopets website
    Reynolds stress model, for modeling turbulence in fluid dynamics.
    Rockstar Mommy, famous mommy blogger: http://
    http://www.rockstarmommy.com/.
    Rotterdam School of Management, the business school of Erasmus
    University, Rotterdam, Netherlands
    Route Switch Module, a component of a powered device that
    provides network routing services
    Royal Saskatchewan Museum, a museum in Regina, Saskatchewan,
    Canada
    Royal School of Mines, an institute of higher education in London,
    England
    Royal Society of Medicine, a British medical society
    Russian School of Mathematics, an after-school mathematical
    education programme based in Massachusetts, USA
    Rsm, a Windows command line tool to manage media resources
    using Removable Storage.Non-parametric Statistic – statistics where it is not assumed that
    the population fits any parametrized distributions. DVT is any of the following -Deep vein thrombosis.
    Design validation test.
    Driving Van Trailer.MVT stands for multivariable testing and is sold by some idiot
    consulting firms as superior to DOE (or DEO as you like to call it or
    are you really talking to god?)Simulation with Monte-Carlo – a widely used class of
    computational algorithms for simulating the behavior of various
    physical and mathematical systems, and for other computations.
    They are distinguished from other simulation methods (such as
    molecular dynamics) by being stochastic, that is nondeterministic
    in some manner – usually by using random numbers (in practice,
    pseudo-random numbers) – as opposed to deterministic
    algorithms. Because of the repetition of algorithms and the large
    number of calculations involved, Monte Carlo is a method suited to
    calculation using a computer, utilizing many techniques of
    computer simulation.DO I GET A PRIZE?

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    #161334

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    First  I  don’t  believe  that  you  are  Stan,as  he  wouldn’t waste  long  time  to  write  such  a  silly  answer? 

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    #161335

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    May  be QC would  care  to  answer  those  questions.
    Appreciate  greatly

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    #161383

    Ken Feldman
    Participant

    STAN!!! You have wayyyyy to much time on your hands. What got into you to provide an answer that long? Don’t you have to mow the back 40 or something? If you have this much free time why don’t you venture on down to SoBe and help me finish remodeling the condo. Although we were recently bought out, we each got a handsome $1M bonus which I am using to remodel and furnish my new ocean view condo on SoBe. Bring Mrs. Stan…forget it, I mean her Babe of a Sister and come visit. Carnell has already been. You can borrow his “you know what” if you want to sun yourself.

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    #161393

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Good Evening Fake,
    Good question, forced me to break out some of my dusty simulation text books from my graduate days.
    Response surface modeling

    Response surface modeling (RSM) is the answer to the time-consuming sampling error issues presented by Monte Carlo. RSM reduces the 1/sqrt(n) error from Monte Carlo and allows the user to reduce the sampling error to close to nothing.

    With RSM, a set of polynomial models are created from about 20-to-50 simulations (Design of Experiments) that approximate the original design. These models are run tens of thousands of times with the same random variations used during Monte Carlo. Since a significantly larger number of simulations are run, the sampling error is reduced to nearly zero. With the design replaced by polynomial models, the time to run the thousands of simulations is much faster — in the order of seconds as opposed to days with the original design.

    RSM is not, however, without its issues. The error introduced with this technique is clearly the difference between the polynomial models and the original design. Additionally, running the simulations on the original design (Design of Experiments) can be time consuming, because the number of simulations required is highly dependent on the number of statistical parameters (which is a major downfall compared to Monte Carlo).
    **********************************
    Now there was a fameous statician that worked with Monte Carlo simulation, I believe on fuzzy logic and had a DEO-approach but I do not recall any more info in what that approach actually was, but the name DEO was the persons last name. It is possible you meant DOE (Design of Experiment)?
    DVT could be Digital Video Technology as that could use RSM, but not really sure on that one.
    Non-parametric statistics are a branch of statistics that are applied when populations are not normal, or there are severely skewed data.
    Non-parametric Tests
    One Sample Median Test
    Two Sample Location Test
    Two Sample Dispersion Test
    One-Way Layout
    Independence Test
     
    Hope that helps,
    Steven Bonacorsi
    Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt

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    #161418

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    Steven
    Appreciate  greatly your valuable explanations.
    Just  compare that with  the posts of Stan & Darth??
    Best Regards

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    #161427

    Mikel
    Member

    Hey cut and paste from Wikipedia takes almost no time.The lower 40 was flooded anyway.I’ll come help with your new acquisition from your ill gotten gains, but
    Carnell’s “you know what” would fall off of me.PS – Babe of a sister just got married, gotta give it a few more years.

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    #161428

    Mikel
    Member

    Bonacorsi!!!!!!!Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt and master of the universe doesn’t
    know what DVT is? My god man, just goes to prove that most SS and
    Lean guys don’t know jack about Quality.

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    #161434

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    Just  explain it  instead  of  blaming and  finger  pointing?
    Stan

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    #161438

    Mikel
    Member

    Blaming and finger pointing? What are you talking about?

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    #161446

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Stan,
    Hi Stan, correct, Lean Six Sugma Master Black Belts do not know everything in the universe. and yes, I admit I am not familiar with the acronym DVT, I took my best stab being digital video technology but since I am unsure, I said so that way I do not mislead enyone. You on the other hand have as so many have pointed out on this site before, too much time on your hands. I suggest you use some of that time and read a book or 2 so you can take a small step forward in trying to keep up with those Master Black Belts on this site who are for real.
    Warm Regrds,
    Steven Bonacorsi

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    #161449

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Stan I agree but come on, all you have to do is read a few of his posts, which I am sure you have done, to see he is a Master Bull Sh_t Artist. While Darth is just calling that out. Darth is ok. It is difficult taking a stab at a bunch of acronyms – what are you taking a statistic’s or simulation class? What are you trying to solve?
    Warm Regards,
    Steven Bonacorsi
    Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt

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    #161452

    Mikel
    Member

    Steven,It was just a joke about the DVT (hint – it is from DFSS as well as APQP
    and many other sources).I am for real and I can hold my own with any MBB on this site.

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    #161457

    Mikel
    Member

    You might be careful about giving advice of too much time on one’s
    hands. I very non random sample of the last 100 posts show 20 on
    them came from you ans 7 came from me.Who has too much time on their hands?If we did a 100% inspection of the last week’s or last month’s posts, I’ll
    bet that you are the most prolithic poster on this site, followed next
    by Fake, aka Marlon.That should scare you.

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    #161460

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Why don’t you do that analysis Stan, I’d be interested to see if you can actually calculate a ratio.
    Steven Bonacorsi

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    #161463

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Stan,
    Well what does DVT mean then, I’ve written a number of DFSS currculums and do not recall ever using that term?
    Steve

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    #161467

    Mikel
    Member

    Desing Validation Testing

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    #161470

    Brandon
    Participant

    Are you sure that’s not “Dissing Validation Testing”?

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    #161472

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Brandon,
    I think yoy nailed it – nice one! LOL
    Steve

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    #161473

    Mikel
    Member

    Why don’t we make it a real test to see who actually knows more
    about Lean, Six Sigma, Quality Systems, Industrial Engineering, …I know who will win that contest.

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    #161475

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Bring it – don’t sing it
    Can we have a prize?
    Steven Bonacorsi

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    #161477

    Mikel
    Member

    How about dinner at the Union Oyster House and a written concession to be posted on this site.

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    #161483

    Brandon
    Participant

    Thanks – couldn’t resist.

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    #161484

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Deal, the one in Boston correct? When would you like to get together, I am available this week?
    Although I don’t want to type up the recorded conversation, will you?
    Steven Bonacorsi

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    #161488

    Mikel
    Member

    The one in Boston, I always like to win on the opponents turf.
    See when Darth can referee since he knows us both. He can probably render a judgement in advance.
    I don’t understand the recorded conversation question.

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    #161489

    Ken Feldman
    Participant

    Steve, beware….Stan is a shrewd guy and at this point I would have to conclude that you owe him a dinner.  Knowing him as I do, I would resist the invitation to come to his room for a drink after dinner.

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    #161490

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Thanks Darth,
    Good advice, I don’t need any after dinner drinks at Stan’s place taking place, wouldn’t want to send him a mixed message and raise his hopes that he might get lucky. LOL
    Steve

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    #161491

    SS
    Member

    This debate to determine who knows more is by far THE coolest display of ego I have seen in a long time!
     We had some great laughs here in the office from this string…thanks guys!!!

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    #161492

    Savage
    Participant

    But it doesn’t come close to the Stan vs. Reigle debate. 

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    #161493

    SS
    Member

    Really, so this has happened with Stan before?  That’s awesome.  I’ve got to find that string.  The adult version of “my dad can beat up your dad”.  If anyone has that string please share, I’m sure it’s full of comedy too!

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    #161494

    Mikel
    Member

    Maybe we should ask Steve if he can prove the 1.5 shift nonsense.

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    #161495

    Mikel
    Member

    I can taste the oysters and clam chowder now. The steamed clams are good as well. Can I get a decent beer in Boston?
     
     
     
     
     

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    #161496

    Mikel
    Member

    Just search on Reigle, 1.5 shift, SPC with a sample of 4, daughter of Reigle, Mikel love, ….
    I am sure it will come up.

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    #161497

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    SS,
    I’m having a good laugh over here too!
    lol
    Steve

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    #161498

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Oh Stan,
    Your not going to trip me that easy, come on now bubba, I have read the Motorola papers and know it was is assummed target level set by Harry.
    You’ll need to go to a much greater depth for the Boston Dinner.
    Steven Bonacorsi

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    #161499

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Of course,
    Sam Adams!
    Steven Bonacorsi

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    #161547

    Mikel
    Member

    Darth already declared me the winner.You’ll have to do better than all of your posting to try to impress
    people. What do you think you actually know? You missed the question on
    tests of equal variances.Let me give you a real easy one to try. Say I need to reduce my
    variance by at least 20%, what size sample do I need to be 95%
    confident? You can just tell me how you approach the problem, I
    don’t even need a correct answer (extra credit will be given for a
    correct answer – state your assumptions).

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    #161549

    Mikel
    Member

    Sam Adams!That’s girly swill.I guess we’ll just have to drink Jack and Grappa.

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    #161555

    Ken Feldman
    Participant

    Promise a Don Julio chaser and I might join you and my old friend Stevie B……no insult intended Steve…just the name of a good BBQ at home.

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    #161560

    Mikel
    Member

    Hey – you ae the referee, so tequila it on the agenda (after you have
    rendered the right and obvious decision).

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    #161588

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Darth,
    When are you able to come to Boston? I need to lock a date down so I can coordinate around my travel schedule. I am open next week any time?
    Q: Cabo Wabo or Don Julio, I’m not a Tequilla guru like you and Stan but will certainly participate on any shots!
    Steven Bonacorsi

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    #161602

    Ken Feldman
    Participant

    Obviously not a tequila maven if you ask about DJ and Cabo Wabo. In fact, Cabo Wabo has been recently sold. Did get a chance to visit the Cabo Wabo bar last year in Cabo San Lucas.

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    #161616

    drquality
    Participant

    Steven,
    Where is my invite?
    Dr. Scott

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    #161618

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    I  trigger the  serious  debate  and  it  ended  up in  chatting  and  personal  invitation.and  you  still  blame  MB  instead  of  appreciation. 

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    #161623

    Mikel
    Member

    You did not trigger any serious debate. You just put some questions
    out there that any competent BB should be able to answer off of the
    top of their head.

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    #161624

    drquality
    Participant

    I blame who? I haven’t blamed anyone for anything in a long time. I was not even in the debate (what debate there was).
    Dr. Scott

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    #161625

    drquality
    Participant

    Fine, I will read the thread again and see if I can find the true debate, and through in my 2 cents.
    Dr. Scott

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    #161628

    Ken Feldman
    Participant

    Hey Scott, good to see you are getting sucked back into the frivolous nonsense the site seems to promote.  The only debate I saw recently was between Stan the Man and Steve from Boston.  That has already been decided with Stan being declared the winner and the recipient of a soon to be purchased girly beer and seafood.

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    #161629

    Mikel
    Member

    Quick summary -Our latest know it all doesn’t know simple DFSS terms. Gets pixxy
    about it. Challenged Stan’s knowledge of how to compute a ratio.
    Challenged back. Resident referee Darth called back in after an
    extended absense (retirement some say after the multimillion dollar
    payout for the sale of GG). Latest know it all stumbles on simple
    question of inadequae sample size, retreats and trys to make light of
    it all. Darth declares obvious winner. Dinner at Union Oyster House
    next week. Are you coming?

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    #161633

    drquality
    Participant

    Stan,
    I assume that response was not intended for me because I haven’t even participated in this “debate”.
    Your Friend,
    Dr. Scott

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    #161634

    drquality
    Participant

    Darth,
    Just to save me some time…. What was the debate and who was the judge of the winner?
    Dr. Scott

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    #161635

    drquality
    Participant

    Stan,
    Man, I must have been out of the loop longer than I realized. When was the GG sold. And who has it now?
    Respectfully,
    Dr. Scott

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    #161636

    Mikel
    Member

    No, I responded to FAA, aka Marlon, aka AllThingsIdiot, aka DumbAsASackof Rocks,….
    Somehow it got stuck under your post, these unreliable electronics!

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    #161637

    Mikel
    Member

    IBM, whoops, I mean Accenture.

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    #161638

    kATHY GREER
    Participant

    A manager states that his process is really working well. Out of 1,500 parts, 1,477 were produced free of a particular defect and passed inspection. Based upon Six-Sigma theory, how would you rate this performance, other things being equal?play the role of supporting the elimination of inspection  consider things like the cost of inspection and the implementation of a TQM strategy. tHIS A DEBATE QUESTION AND I AM STUMPED. i HAVE ALOT OF SUGGESTIONS BUT NO SOLID ANSWER.
    THANK YOU,
    KATHY GREER

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    #161640

    Mikel
    Member

    In six sigma speak, this is a a 3.6 sigma process, which is mediocre.
    The manager should be coached to speak in facts and data, not feelings.

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    #161639

    qualitycolorado
    Participant

    Kathy, Good morning!
    This sounds a whole lot like a discussion question or test question from a college / university class.However, for the moment, I will put aside my skepticism and will assume that it is not.Regarding ” .. Six-Sigma theory, how would you rate this performance …” — my reading of Six Sigma “theory” is that this is generally poor performance, but that will also depend on what you are trying to achieve.If the 1,500 “parts” are actually 1,500 questions on all of the tests you are taking during a hypothetical semester of a university course (let’s say, a course on Six Sigma and related process improvement methods), then you are at a 98.47% average, and you are (probably) getting an “A” or “A-plus” in that class — right? In fact, you will probably make history at this university by having such a high test average in this class — this would be OUTSTANDING performance, you will pass the class with flying colors, and you will probably be asked back by the professor to do your PhD. dissertation under her guidance.If, on the other hand, you are in industry and the customer’s expectation is somewhat higher than your hypothetical university profession — let’s say the customer is a hospital and that the “part” is an instrument for an operating room, and that the hosptial’s expectation is 99.99% “perfect” parts, and that you are the manufacturing manager — well, then you’re sunk — you have probably contributed t to the injury and/or death of patients, your company is probably being sued by the hospital (and you will probably soon be fired by your hospital device manufacturing management job unless you fix this problem).
    … hope that is helpful to you …
    Best regards,
    QualityColoraod

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    #161642

    howe
    Participant

    Stan,
    You never post any answers to any technical questions. When someone want’s help with solving a particular problem you just skirt the question and try to demean the author.
    You don’t even post an opinion other than your opinion that everone that posts here is as clueless as you are.
    I know that statistics, even elementary statistics, can be confusing and dificult to master. However, if you don’t get it ask for some help. Don’t take your frustration on those who are knowledgeable about the subject.
    Mike

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    #161643

    Mikel
    Member

    Wrong

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    #161646

    Mikel
    Member

    Mke,
    This is a joke, right?
    I never express an opinion that someone is as clueless as me. (Stevo does this, but that too is a joke)
    I do answer technical questions, and I don’t need help.
    What knowledgeable person have I taken frustration out on?

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    #161647

    howe
    Participant

    Exactly….Excellent observation
    MIke

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    #161648

    Mikel
    Member

    Does your dyslexia extend to your ability to read and comprehend?

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    #161651

    howe
    Participant

    your obvious contempt for the person you replied to with this message:
    “Bonacorsi!!!!!!!

    Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt and master of the universe doesn’t know what DVT is? My god man, just goes to prove that most SS and Lean guys don’t know jack about Quality.”
    Why don’t yu just quit puttin gpeople down and just contribute the information
    Instead of poking fun at people who are not fimiliar with every three letter acronym (these acronyms, I believe, are created as a form of snobbery anyway). You could have given the meaning in a helpful and supporting way.
    Instead, you chose to ridicule the person.
    Why??
    Mike

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    #161652

    howe
    Participant

    You ust can’t resist the opportunity to put someone down can you?
    My dyslexia makes it very difficult and hard to learn. In college I had to put at a lot more energy into my studies as my peers in order to grasp it.
    However I have earned a MS in Quality, so I must be able read and comprehend something.
    Thank you for using my dyslexia as a weapon against me. I am well aware of the problems that it causes me and that I am not equal to most others in the ability to lean quickly. But thanks for the reminder anyway.
    I let people know about it in an apology so they would not be offended by my spelling and grammer. I have to concentrate very hard not to reverse my letters.
    I may not have a PhD like you and may not be able able to spout off seventeen three letter acronyms in one sentence. But, I can carry my own when it comes to assisting in making improvements in practically any manufacturing or service industry.
    So there is my answer.
    Mike
     

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    #161654

    Mikel
    Member

    Mikey,
    We all need to work on self improvment. Go read your contribution (rant) on lean – turns out you have spent a significant amount of your life on the thing you were trashing. My point with Steven is that he has appointed himself as knowing everything and answering everything. He is trying to position his expertise to push his business. He is not that good. It should scare everyone that he admits to designing and delivering many DFSS courses and he doesn’t know one of the most common terms used in design for the past 50 years.
    I believe the following is good advice for you and me both –
    (Personal) Serenity Prayer
    God grant me the serenity to accept the people I cannot change; courage to change the people I can;and wisdom to know that it is me.
    Peace – I think you are a good guy and you take the Lean, Six Sigma, IE, .. stuff serious. I really don’t what to take issue with you.

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    #161655

    Mikel
    Member

    My apologies, I took a cheap shot.
    You also took one with your comments about technical questions – you have not done your homework there.
    No PhD here – two Masters – one in IE and one in business.

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    #161657

    Stevo
    Member

    Mike,
     
    Don’t take Stan too seriously (he doesn’t).
     
    He is a perplexing subject.  Few can stoop as low socially nor reach as high technically.
     
    Enjoy the show.
     
    Stevo
     
    Ps.  This is a tough group, no one needs rescuing.  Thick skin is a must.
     
    Pss.  I am dieing to take a cheap shot at the dyslexia topic.

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    #161658

    howe
    Participant

    Stan,
    You are right..I took a cheap shot back at you.
    Sorry
    I have worked in Lean vfor eleven years. I was big fan at the beginning, but over the years I have learned that it means whatever any given person wants it to mean. This has caused me to change my opinion.
    I justify my work in lean by telling myas long as I use self that as long as I use basic IE principles and tools I can call it lean even if I don’t believe that htere actually is a lean methodology.
    Six Sigma, on the other hand, is structured and backed up with sound statistical data and analysis. Also it doesn’t have head count reduction as one of its major tools. Seeing 55 to 60 year old engineers turned out to pasture because lean takes the attidude that it is hard to teach and change older people and the idea that every company is grossly overstaffed is very offensive to me.
    But enough rambling about lean..as you probably ave your own definition.
    From IE to another please accept my appology
    Mike

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    #161660

    Mikel
    Member

    Stevo,
    Sorry for the dyslexic cheap shot. If I had thought about it, I would have saved it for you.

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    #161661

    Mikel
    Member

    Mike,
    Thanks.
    Definition of Lean (or Six Sigma)? – Better tomorrow than today, better today than yesterday.
    I like this definition because it reminds me this is something that everyone has to understand and do, it is not an event, and it is not the personal property of a handful of egotistic specialists.
    Toolsets? – Tools usable and used
    Borrowed from the great philosopher Dr. Marty Rayl – what this means is that no tools are excluded but you have to demonstrate the usefulness of the tools and actually use them if you want to talk about it. It stops the narrowmindedness of those who have to slot all things into Lean, or Six Sigma, or DFSS, or ….. Nothing makes me crazier than to hear a MBB tell someone that the project is inappropriate because it is DMADV and you have only been trained in DMAIC. It also stops the whinning of people who want to argue about whether it should be SS or Shainin, for example. If you think it should be Shainin, take the project and bring the results – we will all learn by the success or failure but we will not keep you from using useful things.
    And by the way, I suspect I am more cynical than you. I have spent 32 years trying to teach and learn and the current crop of crappy training and support is obscene. I also think it is obscene that someone with a very narrow toolset thinks they have all the answers. Ask around, I have commited political suicide at least 5 times in my career to make a point and drive a program to a better place for those who take it serious. There are two current implementations in Fortune 100 companies where this is true.

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    #161665

    Dr. Scott
    Participant

    Ok boys,
    Back to business. I have a PhD but could care less. Some of you have MSs, MBAs, IEs, etc.
    It doesn’t matter. Our sole purpose is one as I have always said: “To make good numbers go up and bad numbers go down.”
    It is that simple. Use the tools that work for the situation. And call them whatever you wish.
    Good Fortune to Each of You,
    Dr. Scott

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    #161666

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    So  what  does  it  mean?

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    #161667

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    Really  great  nonsense.
    After all  nobody  hes  yet  answered  all  my  questions?

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    #161668

    Mikel
    Member

    Can we let Stevo take one shot at dyslexia before we get back to
    work?

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    #161669

    Mikel
    Member

    The very first post answered all of the questions and Steven answered
    all but the DVT (which is trivial).

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    #161670

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    Stan the  great  pretender,just  talk  and  talk,then  why  you  don’t  bother  to  answer  those  simple  questions??

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    #161671

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    Just  answer  it   instead  of  this  nonsense….

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    #161673

    Mikel
    Member

    They were answered correctly already. Or please tell us where the answers are wrong.

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    #161674

    Mikel
    Member

    Fake?Do? you? actually? have? a? purpose? in? coming? on? here?

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    #161678

    Dr. Scott
    Participant

    Ok, what the heck are your questions? Just list them 1 to ? I will give it a shot to answer them. If I can’t, I will admit so.
    Dr. Scott

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    #161681

    Mikel
    Member

    Just read the first post – they have been answered several times and
    they are trivial.

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    #161689

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    Funny Stan 
    Suggest  that you change your  name to “Allthingspretender”

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    #161959

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    What is Carnell’s “you know what”?
    If you need something to do you are welcome in San Antonio to help with my new aquisitioin.
    Regards

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    #161960

    Mikel
    Member

    Hey I’d love to.

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    #161961

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Just had one of the old Marysville MBB’s leave. Great time.
    We are http://www.Tejasplastics.com.
    Living in New Braunfels and hanging out in Gruene Hall and Ron Hamel’s house.
    Regards

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    #161962

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Doc,
    You never did show up in Houston for that dinner I owe you after the one you bought in Chicago. Now I am off the coast so you will need to find your way up the Guadaloupe River to collect.
    One of the things you will notice about dealing with people like MB, Fake Accrington, etc. is that when they are that completely clueless it relieves a lot of stress for them. No brains means nobody has any expectations which they are completely qualified to deliver on.
    Regards

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    #161965

    annon
    Participant

    Didn`t he alraedy slip one in on us?

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    #161966

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Mike,
    The turning out of the 55-60 year olds is a function of management not Lean or SS.
    In a recent deployment we had a BB with 33 years of service to the company. Great person and a good mentor to the young hot guns in the wave. There is more to SS projects than stats and ChangeManagement than SWOT, etc. There is value in those old timers that understand the intricasies of the culture and how you get things done inside the company without a revolution (at least an unplanned revolution). When you run a deployment you have to understand the various roles that people will play to make the overall deployment a success. That doesn’t mean everyone is going to be cutting edge BB’s or Lean experts. There is more to it than that.
    This thing needs to stay focused on business results rather than the ancillary issues such as age or learning disabilities.
    As far as who gets accused of not answering the technical questions – that is usually me. Two issues there. First there is the assumption that the technical side is restricted to statistics. It is the predictable side and most of the answers can typically be looked up. Second the emphatuation with stats passes pretty quickly. The unpredictability of people makes the change management and deployment issues much more interesting and much more rewarding. Try predicting the reaction of every person involved in an issue and then try to look it up.
    Take a look at a book called “Freakonomics” if you want to see some interesting analysis of data.
    Just as an afterthought. I have a friend who has a Phd and is dislexic. It was a long road for him and I can only superficially understand the difficulty it causes. After all that study he took a job running a program for JD’s. You have all my respect for what you have accomplished.
    Just my opinion.
    Good luck

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    #161967

    Dr. Scott
    Participant

    Hello Again Mike,
    Good to hear from you again. I just get a bit frustrated when I have to shuffle through mindless arguments and personal jists to find a real opportunity to help someone. I don’t mind debate in the least, but I do tire of the silly bickering.
    Email me at [email protected] so I can track you down and collect on dinner. Also, I would like to bring you up to date on what I am doing now. Please stay in touch.
    Oh, and cover your “you know what” if you swim in the Guadeloupe River. I have heard bad things about such excursions.
    Be Well My Friend,
    Dr. Scott
     

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    #161968

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Doc,
    I catch you on email.
    The Guada lupe has been running high all summer so the toobing industry has suffered badly not to mention that there was some clown on City Council got some cooler size restriction law passed that has certainly changed the landscape or waterscape as it may be.
    Via con dios mi amigo

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    #161969

    Bev
    Participant

    Hey Mike,
    Thanks for the support, I know you and I and so many others have had to deal with Stan and other dopes on this forum. I keep coming back because of the value of the larger community – including experts like yourself.
    fyi.. Dr. Scott and I are friends as well! I’m ging to try to connect him up with some exciting opportunities where he would be a great fit.
    Warm Regards,
    Steve Bonacorsi

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    #161972

    Mikel
    Member

    Hey Stevie,Do you dress up in girl’s clothes when you pretend to be Bev?Call me a dope if you want to, you are a fraud.I like all those web sites dedicated to Steven, especially the one you
    did not put up.Warnest regards.PS – How did you ever get hired at GE?

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    #161973

    Mikel
    Member

    Dr. Scott,Is Bev really your friend like she claims. Does Steven dress up when he
    plays Bev?

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    #161975

    Steve Bonacorsi
    Member

    Stan-lies,
    My girlfriend is Bev., she used my computer when she was reading your continued ranting to every person in here – and as everyone in this forum consistently agree on is that your the fraud. You have no credentials in the Lean Six Sigma community. You have zero customer service skills and technically incompetent. Go rest your neck.
    Steven Bonacorsi

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    #161978

    Mikel
    Member

    Stevie,Keep on coming back. You are a fraud. I like that web site that features you.

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    #162029

    Mikel
    Member

    Wow, I bet your girlfriend Amy is surprised by Bev.

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    #162030

    Mikel
    Member

    Consult with your Stat books if you need to, I had an advantage on
    this one as my girlfriend who is sitting next to me, is taking an
    advanced business stat class right now, so had teh luxury of
    checking her book “Applied Statistics in Business & Economics” by
    David P. Doane & Lori E. Seward – Chapter 2, page 25″ without
    having to even get off my bed. I could locate additional sources if
    you want – I have a lot of stat books :-)Steven BonacorsiWas that Bev the statistician? I am surprised to find a statistician
    taking a business stats class. Must have been Amy.

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    #162034

    howe
    Participant

    Hi Mike,
    I got a kisk out of reading your response. You state;
    “The turning out of the 55-60 year olds is a function of management not Lean or SS.”
    Seems like you feel that lean is not a function of management, if one thing is a funtion of management and not lean, then lean by defiition is a seperate function aside form management.
    An interesting concept to say the least. It implies that lean can be implimented without management.
    On the other hand maybe management that turns out its older staff is not practicing lean. But older people who have ben around a long time are associated with the old ways and are in fact considered to be a hinderance to rapid change.
    I believe that the new cadre of lean excutives have proven this. The question is what price are we as a civilized people willing to pay for the sake of stock prices or bottom line results for investment firms who seem to be gobbling up American businesses.
    The way you dodge techincal or objective discussion in favor of  the subjective is disturbing. you actually try to say that objective discussion is boring and hint that technical answers can be looked up. If that were the case we would just look up the answers to our business problems.
    You like the unpredicatibility of people, who I feel are very predictable, and imply that imrovements to the system are predictable.
    People respond to a simple system of reward and punishment. This covers a broad rage of non material and material rewards and punishments.
    I could reply that you could just look up the answers to people problems in an Industrial Psychology textbook.
    Reactions of people are more predicable than systems. Once you understand animal behavior ou can predict an outcome given the particular stimulus.
    For example, an announced downsiziing will produce resentment and a feeling of being unappreciated by those downsized. However thos who were not will feel relived and insecure. I could go further with other reactions and responses from these two groups but I believe I have made my point.
    Trty to predict the result of every  possible manufacturng system by lookin it up. At best you can only predict a probability within a certain confidence level. And then only if you have covered all the bases and otted all of the i’s and crossed all the t’s.
    I liked your post and believe you put a lot of thought into it. You sound like someone who would make a good Director of Human Resources, or have I guessed your position.
    And that is just my opinion, for what it is worth.
    Mike

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    #162036

    howe
    Participant

    Hey Steve,
    Thanks for yor support.
    But although Stan may be a little short on social skills and self esteem, don’t underestimate him.
    But he is far from being a dope. He appears to be very intellegent. However it is his use of it that can be a little disturbing at times.
    I would love to hear what he knows instead of what he thinks others do not know.
    Mike
     

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