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    QA Knight
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    I am new to six sigma and I am planning to take a class online, I have been looking at Villanova Univ., Smarter Solutions and sixsigmaonline I do not want to pay an arm and leg for the class. I have check all three sites and it looks that all of them follow a specific book and then you need to take a test either from ASQ or IQF. I need some guideline from you the experts. BTW I currently hold two certifications on Lean Manufacturing and I have been doing SPC and DOE’s for many years. Any suggestions? Your help is appreciated

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    #166921

    Mike Carnell
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    Talk to Bill Hathaway at Moresteam.
    It shouldn’t be about “paying an arm and a leg” however much that is. It should be about what you learn for your money.
    Just my opinion

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    #166922

    qualitycolorado
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    QA Knight, Good morning!
    Is you aim pure learning, or are you seeking to become “certified”?
     
    If you are a practitioner of Lean, SPC and DOE, you are likely to find many introductory Six Sigma courses to be boring (and expensive, of course!) since much of the material they cover you already know from your experience with Lean, SPC and DOE. 
     
    Best regards,
    QualityColorado
     

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    #166923

    Fake Harry Alert
    Participant

    How  to  approach  him?
    Thanks

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    #166924

    Fake Harry Alert
    Participant

    Please  elaborate  more:what  is the  difference between “pure learning”
    and  “Certification”?
    thanks  and  regards

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    #166925

    Brandon
    Participant

    Come on guys – do a keyword search on this topic – it’s been beat to death.
    Reposting it all is muda.

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    #166926

    Westfield
    Member

    Learning to drive?= long term memory and change of mind-set, with skills applied to real situations and real constraintsvLearning to pass the driving test?= short term memory with minimal mind-set shift, with skills limited to artificial situations and very few contraints.
    As a Black Belt, I have mentored and coached people who just wanted the Green Belt certification for its own sake: I was never happy with it and in each case wish I had refused.
    If you are really interested, good luck! Go for it!
     

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    #166927

    Fake Harry Alert
    Participant

    Well  said.
    Thanks  for  the  elaboration.
    best  regards

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    #166928

    QA Knight
    Participant

    Thanks for the information, what I really want are two thing, one is get a black belt certification and second is make my manager get a better understanding in Six Sigma, I have done a ton of Kaizen events and save some money, but the company I work is a private own company and they refuse to tell me the saving I have provide during the events, but for what I can see, we have dropped our delivery from 7 days to 2 days and our efficiencies have also improved. That is why I am asking for a good and reputable online course so I can obtain my six sigma BB certification. Thanks to all for the replies.

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    #166930

    Brandon
    Participant

    Sounds like you’ve done a great job QA. If you’re not being recognized however, it may be time to move on. Pretty silly when mngt. or ownership of a company doesn’t appreciate the accomplishments of employees – isn’t going to serve you very well in the long term.

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    #166938

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    I would pick up a phone and call. He is a nice guy and easy to talk to. If he isn’t there talk to Tim.

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    #166939

    BB anexas.net
    Participant

    may be they are scared you gonna ask them for a cut in the savings!! just kidding.

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    #166940

    Ron
    Member

    We shy away from people claiming certifications from “universities” the reason is to liitle hands on experience and to much academics.
    If that is all you have akvailable go for it. But otherwise look for a recognized program in many cases your customers or suippliers may have classes that you could attend at little or no cost.

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    #166947

    Westfield
    Member

    We need to distinguish between two scenarios:
    Scenario OneCompanies that want to run a Six Sigma programme, and give senior executive, top-down, sponsorship for the programme. For these companies, the development of GB, BB and MBB capability are an essential part of the programme, and those with those certifications are seen as critical and highly valued assets. These are organisations with the mind-set and philosophy required to make Six Sigma deliver. This, for me, is classic Six Sigma.
    Scenario TwoCompanies that don’t run a Six Sigma programme, but may encourage and perhaps fund individuals to add Six Sigma tools to their individual toolkits. These are companies which may have a variety of motivations, usually restricted purely to cost-reduction rather than the whole array of process-improvement. They are organisations which are never likely to provide development opportunities for GBs, BBs or even MBBs unless they are in line roles for which the certifications are seen as nice-to-haves rather than must-haves.
    The way you describe your situation makes me think you are in the second scenario. If you can get them to fund your BB training and at least one BB project (with declared results!) then that would be a stepping stone to an organisation which takes Six Sigma seriously. Otherwise, as somoenone else said, maybe better to look elsewhere sooner rather than later.
    Good luck!
      and those which want individuals to add Six Sigma tools to their existing personal toolkits. The two are very different. Where, as in your case, it appears that there is no executive support for a Six Sigma programme, then it appears that you are in the second of the two scenarios.

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    #166951

    Deanb
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    Westfield,I like much of what you say in the 2 scenarios, but question if your Scenario Two can be characterized as a purely cost reduction focus. It can be the opposite too, where a heightened focus on revenue favors a broader balance of improvement initiatives. Scenario Two companies can be that for many sound quality reasons.Also, most quality initiatives in history have matured in their life cycle to become full-time jobs for only a few, but competencies for the many. Unless one is a consultant, most SS practitioner/employees may hope for a Scenario One, but probably should be prepared to eventually end up in a Scenario Two situation. Changing jobs just to cling to Scenario One may not always be a wise career move.

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    #166954

    Fake Sull Alert
    Participant

    However, if you’re looking to find a career as a SS Black Belt with one company, changing jobs may be required here.  Changing jobs is not necessarily a bad thing, and can actually be a great career move.  Just be sure you know what you’re getting yourself into with regards to the new job / employer.
    I say go for it.

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