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    Mike Carnell
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    Does anyone know of a SS deployment that has had reduction of total cost above 3% thay was done with only BB’s?
    Does anyone have what they believe is a successful deployment (and why) that does not use GB’s? (by name or function)
    Thank you foir your feedback.

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    #84499

    billybob
    Participant

    Hello Mr Mike,
    Well since its just me on the possum farm and I only have a brown belt and red/gray suspenders to hold my pants up you can say  there aren’t any green belts here.
    Later,
    Billybob

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    #84502

    Ren
    Participant

    Mike:
    Never heard of it being done as an implementation. Yes, smaller companies are doing it because they want a couple of projects done here or there, but as you are well aware — you can change the culture of an organization unless everyone’s doing the same thing. Companies without Green Belts teeter on initiative failure when a key person leaves the company.
    Ren

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    #84512

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Ren,
    I haven’t seen it either and agree it doesn’t seem like a good strategy. I have seen no BB’s but the result was a dependency on BB’s.
    Thanks for the response.
     

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    #84513

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Billybob,
    You and the possums still around.
    I am a little surprized at the belt and suspenders. Counseling might be an alternative?
    Thanks. Entertaining as always.

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    #84944

    Stan Truby
    Member

    Hi from South Africa
    Just starting out here but lots to do…
    Has anyone done a job description for green belts operating part time alongside other jobs which are more full time?
    if so I would like to see such
    Not yet expert Stan
     

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    #84950

    Mayes
    Participant

    Mike,
    Currently, I am the only Black Belt in a company which has 600 employees. It has been two years now that I have been with this company.
    To answer your question, I believe having Green Belts in a company is not as crucial as one might think. One of the many important process of having a successful Six Sigma Project is how the BB’s share the Six Sigma tools with the team members (from Operator to President).
    Throughout my career with the organization, the total cost reduction on four projects are close to 3.2 %. Therefore, I believe it is not necessary to have Green Belts to have a successful Six Sigma deployment.
    I believe Green Belts is a Non-Value added item and should be eliminated. It is a waste of money and time. That’s my feedback and I hope it serves you well. I hope I do not upset anyone. Thanks.

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    #84954

    Charles H
    Participant

    Ray,
    I cannot agree with a flat statement that GBs are NVA.  Maybe it isn’t what works for you and your company, but I have seen companies where GBs bring in the lions share of returns over the long term. Different strokes for different folks!
    Charles H

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    #84966

    Broomfield
    Participant

    Hi Stan.  Here is our description.  Good luck.
    Green Belt Roles and Responsibilities
    Job Description
     
    Roles:
     
    uLeads the teams as they implement the 6s methodology on projects
    uIntroduces the methodology and tools to Team Members and the broader organization
     
    Reporting Lines:
     
    uReports directly to the function with a dotted line relationship to the a Champion
    uMust feel a part of the functional organization
     
    Responsibilities:
     
    uApplies the methodology completely to the project
    uActs as both a technical and cultural change agent for quality
    uSpreads the methodology to the project teams
    uSupports the efforts of the function by spreading the use of the methodology when called on to assist on other business issues
    uHas dual membership:  in the functional and 6s teams
    uMust have technical competencies required to effectively execute the 6s tools
     
    Time Commitment:
     
    uComplete two projects per year, working about 20% of the time
     
    Minimum Training Requirement:
     
    uAttend Green Belt training class
    uComplete all project-related requirements
     

     

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    #84989

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Ray,
    I’m going with Charles on this one. I have never seen it work. Actually in a well run program I see the GB population actually drive the culture shift. Since you are 1 person in a group of 600 that makes you about .17% of the population. How are you driving the culture shift or is the SS program just yours?
    Thanks for your thoughts.

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    #84992

    Helper
    Participant

    Just want to add to the great conversation.  I believe green belts are essential.  They can be extremely valuable if their primary responsibilities are 1st line managers, supervisors and team leaders.  In that case they serve as a valuable network for black belts whose projects are accountable for driving results across functional areas.
    Anyone agree?

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