OEE for Varying Cycle Times
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August 11, 2017 at 7:27 am #55789
RobertGuest@rmnrdiInclude @rmnrdi in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Is there a form of oee or similar metric for equipment with varying cycle times?
For example, if you make eyeglass lenses on an automated cnc type machine, how could you calculate oee? The speed of the machine depends on the material and the prescription, but there’s no way to batch jobs with those attributes to do a weighted cycle time. Jobs are processed as they come in. First in first out.
What would any of you recommend as a better metric/s for this type of situation?
Thanks,
Rob0August 11, 2017 at 8:09 am #201732
Chris SeiderParticipant@cseiderInclude @cseider in your post and this person will
be notified via email.One approach is to accept the fastest cycle time as the top technical speed INDEPENDENT of the material being processed. Losses are then bucketed and “known” losses are accounted for the material impact.
I’ve seen that approach and it’s clean because it does impact capacity also since OEE does impact proven capacity questions.
Others will say calculate performance losses based on different technical speeds but then no one will EVER (most likely) ask how to improve speeds of slower running materials.
0August 13, 2017 at 2:35 pm #201738
RobertGuest@rmnrdiInclude @rmnrdi in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Thanks Chris, that makes a lot of sense.
0August 14, 2017 at 3:11 am #201739
Mike ChambersParticipant@MikeCInclude @MikeC in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Chris is right, especially for a manual system. Keep in mind the purpose of OEE is to drive improvement. To Chris’ point, if the resolution and ease of use is an issue, there will be limited improvement.
An automatic system that archives historical performance can overcome this. We use a real-time system that is based in MS Excel/Office that has this capability. You could then rank and attack your “bottom 10” bad actors for a given time period.
Yet another option is to not get bogged down in the details and instead work using a duration that is long enough to wipe out the effects of mix. That may be an hour, shift or day … whatever makes sense.
0August 14, 2017 at 10:06 am #201740
Chris SeiderParticipant@cseiderInclude @cseider in your post and this person will
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Nice to have those automated gathering systems to get to analysis! Neat.0August 14, 2017 at 12:29 pm #201742
RobertGuest@rmnrdiInclude @rmnrdi in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Mike,
“An automatic system that archives historical performance can overcome this. We use a real-time system that is based in MS Excel/Office that has this capability.”
Do you know how your system archives this data? Is it some type of proprietary interface that’s part of the machinery? An after market sensor setup?
I’m also software developer and I’m curious how this is done.
0August 14, 2017 at 2:58 pm #201743
Chris SeiderParticipant@cseiderInclude @cseider in your post and this person will
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Check this site out. http://www.debtechsystems.com/default.htm
I’ve used them to design with me a system to track losses for a fully manual system with no signals from the field. It’s very easy for operators to use.They can get with you on the details. I have no financial connection with this organization and get no compensation. Mention my name and they will know what they helped us implement.
0August 15, 2017 at 8:14 am #201744
Mike ChambersParticipant@MikeCInclude @MikeC in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Robert,
“Do you know how your system archives this data? Is it some type of proprietary interface that’s part of the machinery? An after market sensor setup?”
The system (known as Real-Time Production Efficiency Monitoring) archives the data by default at midnight on the last day of the month. The norm is to accumulate it in shared network storage where it can be analyzed by anyone.
No, the interface is not proprietary. It’s MS Office-based and readily links to PLC’s, data loggers, and Arduino-type devices.
The sensors can be after market or OEM.
Let me say I do have a financial interest in this. My company is the one that developed the system back in 2009. Having said that, we have yet to find a more economical way of monitoring a manufacturing process in real-time. It’s incredibly flexible and MS Office can usually be supported in-house. Our book available at Amazon or eBay provides details.
Given my involvement and the fact I don’t want to hijack this thread, I’m reluctant to post additional details here. If there’s interest, I will post screen shots and answer additional questions in a separate thread.
0August 15, 2017 at 8:14 am #201745
Mike ChambersParticipant@MikeCInclude @MikeC in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Oooops … one of the posted links have changed. The correct link for Amazon can be found here.
0August 18, 2017 at 12:46 pm #201749
RobertGuest@rmnrdiInclude @rmnrdi in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Thanks guys. I’ll be sure to check out the resources.
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