Online Training for Six Sigma
- October 5, 2009 at 1:02 pm #52728
I don’t have a lot of money to spend on Six Sigma and my company will not assist. I figured as much since they contributed 0 to my 3 degrees and will not contribute any to my Doctorate program I start in Jan 2010. I want my Six Sigma and unfortuneately at this time my college doesn’t offer it so I could take advantage of using student loans. So I have to pay on my own and found an online certification program at ExpertRating.com. Has anyone heard of them? Are they reputable? Do they deliver what they promise? Will companies accept their program as Six Sigma certification? I don’t want to spend the money on some fly by night company. Thanks.0October 5, 2009 at 1:38 pm #185907
Jered HornParticipant@HornJM Include @HornJM in your post and this person will
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Tina,I’m sorry, I REALLY don’t mean to seem mean…but,
I’m already not all that impressed with your
resume…Three college degrees (two undergraduate, one
masters ??) while working for a company that doesn’t
have an education reimbursement program. Going for
a doctorate. You “want your Six Sigma” (What’s that
mean?). Thinking student loans are advantageous.
Pursuing online Six Sigma certification.I have never heard of ExpertRating.com. I doubt if
they are reputable. And I would even be skeptical
that they are even legitimate (it might be, I just
don’t know).I think you need to read some books on Six Sigma
first. Try to find highly recommended
books…recommended by Six Sigma practitioners.
Read until you figure out that Six Sigma is
something you have to experience…not a class you
can take.Some of us have pretty strong opinions on this
subject and I am one of them.I hope this helps, and that you’ve taken this as
constructive advice.0October 5, 2009 at 2:00 pm #185908
Adam L BowdenParticipant@Adam-L-Bowden Include @Adam-L-Bowden in your post and this person will
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If you want a cheap certificate – then go and buy “Six Sigma For
Dummies” then take the ASQ test. If you want a decent certification
then you’ll have to track down some of the tenured folks here for
advice.Regards,Adam0October 5, 2009 at 2:05 pm #185909
waldenParticipant@chris Include @chris in your post and this person will
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Tina,I would stay away from any program where you can get both Six Sigma “certified” and Yoga “certified”.This “online” certification looks to be a 350 page book plus a test…. Buyer beware.Chris0October 5, 2009 at 2:52 pm #185914
Thank you for the information. I a bit confused by the whole not impressed with resume.
Until age 36 I was a travel agent. I started that career at age 18. I didn’t attend college until after the events of 9/11. I was there living in NY and working for American Express. I had to go to college if I wanted to do something besides flip hamburgers. So I picked up a customer service job at United Healthcare and went to college with student loans so I could better myself. I did this and maintained 4.0 while working f/t and taking care of my husband and family. I am not sure how many other women out there have that much drive and determination to do it all. And yes it was exhausting but I kept on. Now I am 43 and has my Masters but it doesn’t matter to United. They could careless. I have moved from the customer service job to a report analyst job which is a step up, but not at all where I want to be. It took me over a year of applying internally just to get this far. And yes I have applied for everywhere you can imagine. Govt, MS…tons of corporations. But no one seems to care and it all goes back to…”while your education is very impressive you have little experience.” Of course my comment is always…”how can I get experience if you will not hire me?”
I used to be this little mouse in interviews that just settled for whatever the interviewer was telling me or answered questions the way college taught me to answer with employers want to hear this that and the other thing. Well, 7 years that still has not gotten me where I want to be. So over the past 6 months I have adopted this kind of attitude of look, I can take or leave this job. The point is you need me. I don’t need you. And when I interview I am the same way now. I am sick to death of people telling me I can’t. Oh contraire, I can and you are the company that will lose out by not hiring me. But I will keep doing what I do and keep persevering no matter what anyone says or what walls get put up in front of me. I am not the type of person that just exists.0October 5, 2009 at 3:00 pm #185916
No I don’t want cheap, I just want something that fits in my budget. My husband was just laid off from GM 2 weeks ago after 9yrs and with a 2k a month mortgage I don’t have 5k to fork out for Six Sigma. If I did I would have done it already. I am inquiring at work to see what our list of 50 black belts say. My old boss is one of them. I know my company has Six Sigma classes but not sure how you qualify for them. We do offer tuition reimbursement but it has to be DIRECTLY related to your job and can’t be a situation where you can grow. Which makes 0 sense to me. Why on earth would people waste time and money educating themselves to not grow. I complained to HRDirect about this so many times that I am sure they know me by name and not employeeID. I told them get rid of the program if no one can take advantage of it. My sister is in customer service and has been for 5yrs. She told her boss what am I to do, get a typing degree? That pertains to my present job. She basically told them off and then got student loans to get her nursing degree. So in the end she will be gone and making more money than her director and can then say ha ha. United is not a horrible place to work, really. They just have some ridiculous rules. I have applied for everything related to my degree until I am blue in the face. But I look at it as something will happen soon. Good things happen to people who persevere and stay positive. And if you have the drive and ambition you will reach your goal. And…I do feel blessed because I get paid ok and can work from home f/t which saves tons on gas and tolls.0October 5, 2009 at 3:02 pm #185917
That is what I was thinking. It just sounds too good to be true and you get what you pay for. I wished my college would offer something. I could throw that into my currect program and student loans could just take care of it. I have a meeting later today with one of our Black Belts. I will see what she says. Thanks.0October 5, 2009 at 3:17 pm #185919
Would you suggest MoreStream? I saw them on the home page of iSixSigma so I have to assume they are reputable. Maybe one of our 50 Black Belts have used them. I just want an online reputable company that doesn’t charge my entire life savings and want my first born child.0October 5, 2009 at 3:18 pm #185920
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Tina,There is a guy called Stan on this forum. I would request his guidance were I you. I don’t mean to demean others, as it seems you’ve gotten good advice already. I would, however, wish to see Stan’s take on the situation. As for me, my company has said get certified, that’s it. They just want me to have the paper. The certification won’t teach you anything as I’ve discovered, as that comes only with practice in my opinion, but it may get your foot in the door. We cannot even begin to look at Six Sigma until I get certified. Silly, yes. But I must work, as it seems you do, within the rules and expectations at hand.Regards,
Douglas0October 5, 2009 at 3:29 pm #185921
Thanks. I will look for him. My manager that was tapped on the shoulder in 2003 and asked to become certified has a Black Belt now. He is one of our 50. He said that United put him through the program. He was our project manager thus the reason he was tapped. He stated that unless your manager nominates you, you can’t take United’s training. Even if you are willing to pay for it. Each class at United is $40 dollars. Seems dumb to me. Just as dumb as our tuition reimbursement rules. If employees want to learn and are willing to use their own time and money, then what is the deal? It is almost like they don’t want your to succeed or do anything better because you might leave. As soon as I got my masters my management team started asking me tons of questions about my future plans. The main question was are you leaving? Well if you would put me where I want to be then no. But if you keep me stagnant then yes. I am going to get certified one way or the other. I am going to get what I need to move up the ladder either within this company or another. I want what I want and am never going to settle until my goals are achieved.0October 5, 2009 at 7:40 pm #185931
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Great info on United there Tina….I almost applied there about a year ago to be in their Six Sigma program….hearing your story, good I didnt.
MoreSteam is okay, I did not get my cert through them (GE)….but I have heard from others that they are okay. One thing I heard was its not as rigorous as some of the other programs/ instruction. But it gives you a good basic foundation.0
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