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  • #33298

    Navine
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    What actually the “P” value tells us in ANOVA table. We normally compare the test statistics with the critical value (F0, obtained from F-table at given d.o.fs) to determine whether the given parameters effects are significant or not.
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    #89864

    Zilgo
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    What used to be done, before computers, was that you would look up a critical value and compare it to your observed F-statistic.  That critical value represented the cutoff point for the alpha level of significance, usually 0.05.  Well, 0.05 is also the p-value that is associated with a certain F-statistic.  When you see a p-value in an ANOVA table what you see is really the area under the F distribution curve that is to the right of your observed F-statistic.  It also represents the probability that your observed F-statistic occurs under the assumption that the null hypothesis of your test (in this case, that the means of the factor levels are equal).

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    #89877

    Muhammad A khan
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    The p-value is the area to the right of the F statistic, F0, obtained from ANOVA table. It is the probability of observing a result (Fcritical) as big as the one which is obtained in the experiment (F0), assuming the null hypothesis is true. Low p-values are indications of strong evidence against the null hypothesis. I read in the book that it is common to declare a result as significant if the p-value is less than 0.05 or 0.01.
    Hope this helps

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    #89881

    jediblackbelt
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    This is more of a question than a statement, but I was always taught if you use a P-Value in the ANOVA then you are assuming normality in the data.  Correct???

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    #89883

    Muhammad A khan
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    In Analysis of variance test (ANOVA), we have two fundamental assumptions.  First that the “means” are normally distributed; secondly the “variances” are equal. So, what I think is that in ANOVA test, we can use both methods, either “F” test or “P” test in oder to see whether the means are significantly  different or not. Please correct me if i am wrong!
    Regards

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    #90142

    Peter Moore
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    See this link. It offers one of the best explanations I’ve seen.
     
    http://www.sportsci.org/resource/stats/pvalues.html

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    #90159

    Bobby
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    P values have 2 specific uses.
    1. Normality of Data – a significant P value (P < or = .05) means that the sample data you are testing (either with Normal Probability Plot or Descriptive Stats, using Minitab) is a normal subset of the population data.
    2. Hypothesis Testing – a significant P value (P < or = .05) means you would reject your null hypothesis (that there is NO difference between the 2 or more sets of data you are testing).

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    #90161

    Raja Setlur
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    In Bobby’s reply, paragraph1, is it that P < or = 0.05 implies normal data or
    P > or = 0.05 implies normal data?
    Thanks
     

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    #90166

    Fontanilla
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    I agree with 2nd statement, but a P Value in a normality test must be >=.05 to indicate normality.

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    #90169

    walden
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    The P value is the probability of Alpha (or type 1) error, which is the probability that an F value this large could occur by chance and not be due to some assignable cause.

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    #90225

    Bobby
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    Yes, I will say I placed my sign backwards.  Just goes to show that in a few instances inspection may be a value-added step.
    Always proofread your email before you hit send.
    Thanks Dan and Raja for catching my miscue.

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    #90241

    Tuell
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    I remember it this way.If the p is low, the null must go.

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    #176784

    Ernikunj
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    In 2nd use…I would like to add that…p-Value is probability of making a type I error that is calculated from data.
    so p-value is probability of rejecting a true hypothesis.

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