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January 14, 2010 at 5:51 pm #53132
Jessica HarperParticipant@Jessica-HarperInclude @Jessica-Harper in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Here’s the result of what Joyce was fishing for: http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wbfo/news.newsmain/article/1/0/1599466/WBFO.News/Lean.Six.Sigma..-.Part.I..What.is.it.and.can.it.work.for.county.government
0January 14, 2010 at 6:10 pm #188342
Ken FeldmanParticipant@DarthInclude @Darth in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Great thanks. But, why the focus strictly on the stat portion of SS? Possibly in her subsequent pieces she will really capture the true essence and change management element of SS rather than the technical aspect. This short segment adds nothing to the equation, breaks no new ground and presents no new challenges. Possibly in the next one she will get to the meat. Please forward that when you see it.
0January 14, 2010 at 7:07 pm #188344Gee Darth, maybe we should change your name to Newbie Darth.If you actually read the story, you would see that part 2 is tomorrow. I
wonder if you can figure out where to find it? (hint – look at the
address of the story you already didn’t read well)0January 14, 2010 at 7:43 pm #188347
Ken FeldmanParticipant@DarthInclude @Darth in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Yes, I read that part and while adjusting for time zone differences I will see if the article deepens. From your response, I take it that you were enthralled with the piece and are a better man for it.
0January 14, 2010 at 7:44 pm #188348
Ken FeldmanParticipant@DarthInclude @Darth in your post and this person will
be notified via email.I also question why she even bothered posting and then thanking everyone for the deep and thought provoking responses which were obviously helpful in her writing her article a couple of days later.
0January 14, 2010 at 7:49 pm #188349Sheds a little light on the depth of reporting nowdays, huh?
0January 14, 2010 at 8:41 pm #188351
Mike CarnellParticipant@Mike-CarnellInclude @Mike-Carnell in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Freddy,
Let’s give Joyce credit, from the article it sounds like she has actually been directly involved with some of the people in Erie County. There are some very good people involved up there so she probably had some good information to start with.
That is much better than some professor that started pontificating about creativity and SS or the “reporter” that did the USA Today piece.
I am actually amazed that she got the article written without John L figuring out how to get his picture attached to it.
Let’s see where it goes assuming we can figure out when the next article appears and where it will be. That was a touch of sarcasm Darth.
Just my opinion.0January 14, 2010 at 9:28 pm #188353HardlyI was just intrigued that you left it to Jessica to tell you what was
obvious.0January 14, 2010 at 9:30 pm #188354Based on the responses, I thought her article would be on how easy it
is to start a food fight on iSixSigma0January 14, 2010 at 9:34 pm #188355I don’t think it was a bad article at all. If fact, she seems to know her experts.
Let’s look what I wrote in my initial comment to Joyce:
“In my opinion most of the criticism is due to ignorance and thinking six sigma is a magic pill or a silver bullet.”
Now let’s look at her article:
But experts caution that Six Sigma should not be seen as a silver bullet”
Yup – She knows her experts.
Stevo0January 14, 2010 at 9:35 pm #188356
Mike CarnellParticipant@Mike-CarnellInclude @Mike-Carnell in your post and this person will
be notified via email.We haven’t seen the whole thing yet.
You aren’t amazed that John L doesn’t have his picture in it?
Regards0January 14, 2010 at 9:48 pm #188357
Mike CarnellParticipant@Mike-CarnellInclude @Mike-Carnell in your post and this person will
be notified via email.The Silver Bullet comment has always amazed me. Does anyone know of a time when any has walked into any place and said “Here is X. This is the siver bullet for all your problems.”
No offense Stevo but (just remember that everything before the but was a lie) the Silver Bullet comment seems to be one of those Corporate Speak things that someone says when they have no clue about what is going on. Everybody just nods their head like it was something profound. Seems to passify the jaded person in the group that they got to throw out something negative and the other jaded people walk and say “I just heard in a meeting that X wasn’t a silver bullet.” That actually sounds pretty jaded.
Just my opinion.0January 14, 2010 at 9:57 pm #188358Mike – Your shameless act of trying to discredit me and steal my thunder is petty and small. I expect this kind of behavior from Darth, but not from you. It will take more than one drink to mend this fence.
Stevo0January 14, 2010 at 10:12 pm #188359A romp in the Trump fountain will do it.
0January 14, 2010 at 11:51 pm #188363That and she quoted someone from Cleveland,Everyone in Buffalo knows that if you need some town to look down
on it’s Cleveland.0January 15, 2010 at 2:51 am #188365
MBBinWIParticipant@MBBinWIInclude @MBBinWI in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Stevo: Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back. The same could be said about any initiative. No deep insight there.
0January 15, 2010 at 2:55 am #188366
MBBinWIParticipant@MBBinWIInclude @MBBinWI in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Mike: Guess you haven’t met Dr. Goldratt – He actually had (maybe still has) a seminar on “The Silver Bullet.” Given all the business methods and continuous improvement methods out there, I’d say that TOC (including DBR, thinking processes, and critical chain schedule mgmt) probably fills the bill as the closest thing to being a silver bullet.
0January 15, 2010 at 1:57 pm #188376
Mike CarnellParticipant@Mike-CarnellInclude @Mike-Carnell in your post and this person will
be notified via email.I can do that. I am pretty sure we can throw in a cigar as well. The Cuban cigar roller is going to be there again.
0January 15, 2010 at 2:00 pm #188377
Mike CarnellParticipant@Mike-CarnellInclude @Mike-Carnell in your post and this person will
be notified via email.When you live in Buffalo and you think Pittsburg is a vacation spot it says a lot.
0January 15, 2010 at 2:05 pm #188378
Mike CarnellParticipant@Mike-CarnellInclude @Mike-Carnell in your post and this person will
be notified via email.I have a lot more than one example that I am willing to supply the TOC and Leans guys with and they can do there stuff all day long and won’t get there from here. If you consider that Lean is TPS with stats stripped out and that SS needs some lean it pretty well say that just the process improvement side takes more than one thing.
Just my opinion0January 15, 2010 at 3:23 pm #188384
Ken FeldmanParticipant@DarthInclude @Darth in your post and this person will
be notified via email.I found this all by myself without any help from Katie or Jessica.http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wbfo/news.newsmain/article/0/0/1599837/WBFO.News/Lean.Six.Sigma.-.Part.II..What.is.it.and.can.it.work.for.county.governmentNot quite a biting commentary and soul searching investigative report. I put it alongside the story about Mrs. Smith’s cat being caught in the tree. Folksy, local focused and light. But, then again, I guess that is what it was always supposed to be. Much ado about nothing.
0January 15, 2010 at 3:34 pm #188385I think one on easy food fights on iSix would be good.Want to take bets on which of us can get the best worthless thread
going today?0January 15, 2010 at 3:50 pm #188387
Ken FeldmanParticipant@DarthInclude @Darth in your post and this person will
be notified via email.You and Carnell have an advantage since it is night time already where I am so you have a longer timeframe to be obnoxious. The advantage switches to me in the morning whilst ya’ll are sound asleep.
0January 15, 2010 at 4:36 pm #188389
Stevo AdmirerMember@Stevo-AdmirerInclude @Stevo-Admirer in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Ooooh! I’ll bring the thongs!
0January 15, 2010 at 5:19 pm #188390Whisky – That is whats nice about this business, you dont have to be unique or original to be successful. Now if I was really on my game I would have repackaged and updated the comment; Looking for a titanium ballistic.
Stevo
Ps If you are looking for depth, Im not your man. Insight is a different beast.0January 15, 2010 at 5:31 pm #188391About a year ago, there was a viral video poking fun at the Cleveland tourism board. It showed all of the wonderful things about Cleveland; the river burning, over weight people, the browns, and the city motto was at least were not Detroit.
So there is always someone to look down on (except Detroit).
Stevo
Ps Buffalo is Cleveland just with a waterfall.0January 15, 2010 at 7:15 pm #188393Touche
0January 15, 2010 at 7:22 pm #188394Wait, who’s John L, and why should we care?
0January 15, 2010 at 7:49 pm #188397You must not know John LThe correct question is why would John L. care what you think?
0January 15, 2010 at 7:52 pm #188399John L wouldn’t care what I think – nor would most of the people on this board.Just wondering who he was
0January 15, 2010 at 8:41 pm #188401John L is to SS what Mikel Harry claims to be.
0January 16, 2010 at 1:12 am #188404
Mike CarnellParticipant@Mike-CarnellInclude @Mike-Carnell in your post and this person will
be notified via email.It is an advantage if you are going to answer your own posts.
0January 16, 2010 at 1:37 am #188408
Mike CarnellParticipant@Mike-CarnellInclude @Mike-Carnell in your post and this person will
be notified via email.John Lupienski was the Quality Manager at the Motorola Automotive Plant in Elma, New York. He understood the idea of SS before it was really an idea. Probably one of the most patient and tenacious implementors of Continuous Improvement you could ever meet. Always something to learn from him as long as you can live with him telling you everything three times and leaves the longest phone messages ever left on voice mail.
We hear people whine about management buy in. Plant Managers would call Marty Rayl, Director Of Quality Assurance, and plead to have him pulled out of the factory because John was so tenacious. The only way Marty would pull him is after they did everything John wanted them to do and by then they understood the benefit.
Why do we have little tolerance for the weak hearted that whine? We have seen John grind the worst of them into submission and then revive them as advocates. You had to see it to believe it.
Just my opinion.0January 16, 2010 at 3:25 am #188412
MBBinWIParticipant@MBBinWIInclude @MBBinWI in your post and this person will
be notified via email.I could take it hands-down. Anyone want to discuss Z-scores?
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