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    Jessica Harper
    Participant

    Here’s the result of what Joyce was fishing for: http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wbfo/news.newsmain/article/1/0/1599466/WBFO.News/Lean.Six.Sigma..-.Part.I..What.is.it.and.can.it.work.for.county.government

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    #188342

    Darth
    Participant

    Great thanks. But, why the focus strictly on the stat portion of SS? Possibly in her subsequent pieces she will really capture the true essence and change management element of SS rather than the technical aspect. This short segment adds nothing to the equation, breaks no new ground and presents no new challenges. Possibly in the next one she will get to the meat. Please forward that when you see it.

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    #188344

    Mikel
    Member

    Gee Darth, maybe we should change your name to Newbie Darth.If you actually read the story, you would see that part 2 is tomorrow. I
    wonder if you can figure out where to find it? (hint – look at the
    address of the story you already didn’t read well)

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    #188347

    Darth
    Participant

    Yes, I read that part and while adjusting for time zone differences I will see if the article deepens. From your response, I take it that you were enthralled with the piece and are a better man for it.

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    #188348

    Darth
    Participant

    I also question why she even bothered posting and then thanking everyone for the deep and thought provoking responses which were obviously helpful in her writing her article a couple of days later.

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    #188349

    Valenti
    Participant

    Sheds a little light on the depth of reporting nowdays, huh?

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    #188351

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Freddy,
    Let’s give Joyce credit, from the article it sounds like she has actually been directly involved with some of the people in Erie County. There are some very good people involved up there so she probably had some good information to start with.
    That is much better than some professor that started pontificating about creativity and SS or the “reporter” that did the USA Today piece.
    I am actually amazed that she got the article written without John L figuring out how to get his picture attached to it.
    Let’s see where it goes assuming we can figure out when the next article appears and where it will be. That was a touch of sarcasm Darth.
    Just my opinion.

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    #188353

    Mikel
    Member

    HardlyI was just intrigued that you left it to Jessica to tell you what was
    obvious.

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    #188354

    Mikel
    Member

    Based on the responses, I thought her article would be on how easy it
    is to start a food fight on iSixSigma

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    #188355

    Stevo
    Member

    I don’t think it was a bad article at all.  If fact, she seems to know her experts. 
     
    Let’s look what I wrote in my initial comment to Joyce:
     
    “In my opinion – most of the criticism is due to ignorance and thinking six sigma is a magic pill or a silver bullet.”
     
    Now let’s look at her article:
    But experts caution that Six Sigma should not be seen as a silver bullet”
    Yup – She knows her experts.
     
    Stevo

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    #188356

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    We haven’t seen the whole thing yet.
    You aren’t amazed that John L doesn’t have his picture in it?
    Regards

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    #188357

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    The Silver Bullet comment has always amazed me. Does anyone know of a time when any has walked into any place and said “Here is X. This is the siver bullet for all your problems.”
    No offense Stevo but (just remember that everything before the but was a lie) the Silver Bullet comment seems to be one of those Corporate Speak things that someone says when they have no clue about what is going on. Everybody just nods their head like it was something profound. Seems to passify the jaded person in the group that they got to throw out something negative and the other jaded people walk and say “I just heard in a meeting that X wasn’t a silver bullet.” That actually sounds pretty jaded.
    Just my opinion.

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    #188358

    Stevo
    Member

    Mike – Your shameless act of trying to discredit me and steal my thunder is petty and small.  I expect this kind of behavior from Darth, but not from you.  It will take more than one drink to mend this fence.
     
    Stevo

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    #188359

    GB
    Participant

    A romp in the Trump fountain will do it.

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    #188363

    Mikel
    Member

    That and she quoted someone from Cleveland,Everyone in Buffalo knows that if you need some town to look down
    on it’s Cleveland.

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    #188365

    MBBinWI
    Participant

    Stevo:  Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back.  The same could be said about any initiative.  No deep insight there.

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    #188366

    MBBinWI
    Participant

    Mike:  Guess you haven’t met Dr. Goldratt – He actually had (maybe still has) a seminar on “The Silver Bullet.”  Given all the business methods and continuous improvement methods out there, I’d say that TOC (including DBR, thinking processes, and critical chain schedule mgmt) probably fills the bill as the closest thing to being a silver bullet.

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    #188376

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    I can do that. I am pretty sure we can throw in a cigar as well. The Cuban cigar roller is going to be there again.

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    #188377

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    When you live in Buffalo and you think Pittsburg is a vacation spot it says a lot.

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    #188378

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    I have a lot more than one example that I am willing to supply the TOC and Leans guys with and they can do there stuff all day long and won’t get there from here. If you consider that Lean is TPS with stats stripped out  and that SS needs some lean it pretty well say that just the process improvement side takes more than one thing.
    Just my opinion

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    #188384

    Darth
    Participant

    I found this all by myself without any help from Katie or Jessica.http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wbfo/news.newsmain/article/0/0/1599837/WBFO.News/Lean.Six.Sigma.-.Part.II..What.is.it.and.can.it.work.for.county.governmentNot quite a biting commentary and soul searching investigative report. I put it alongside the story about Mrs. Smith’s cat being caught in the tree. Folksy, local focused and light. But, then again, I guess that is what it was always supposed to be. Much ado about nothing.

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    #188385

    Mikel
    Member

    I think one on easy food fights on iSix would be good.Want to take bets on which of us can get the best worthless thread
    going today?

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    #188387

    Darth
    Participant

    You and Carnell have an advantage since it is night time already where I am so you have a longer timeframe to be obnoxious. The advantage switches to me in the morning whilst ya’ll are sound asleep.

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    #188389

    Stevo Admirer
    Member

    Ooooh! I’ll bring the thongs!

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    #188390

    Stevo
    Member

    Whisky – That is what’s nice about this business, you don’t have to be unique or original to be successful.  Now if I was really on my game I would have repackaged and updated the comment; “Looking for a titanium ballistic”.
     
    Stevo
     
    Ps – If you are looking for depth, I’m not your man.  Insight is a different beast.

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    #188391

    Stevo
    Member

    About a year ago, there was a viral video poking fun at the Cleveland tourism board.  It showed all of the wonderful things about Cleveland; the river burning, over weight people, the browns, and the city motto was “at least we’re not Detroit”.
     
    So there is always someone to look down on (except Detroit).
     
    Stevo
     
    Ps – Buffalo is Cleveland just with a waterfall.

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    #188393

    Mikel
    Member

    Touche

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    #188394

    SiggySig
    Member

    Wait, who’s John L, and why should we care?

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    #188397

    Mikel
    Member

    You must not know John LThe correct question is why would John L. care what you think?

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    #188399

    SiggySig
    Member

    John L wouldn’t care what I think – nor would most of the people on this board.Just wondering who he was

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    #188401

    Mikel
    Member

    John L is to SS what Mikel Harry claims to be.

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    #188404

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    It is an advantage if you are going to answer your own posts.

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    #188408

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    John Lupienski was the Quality Manager at the Motorola Automotive Plant in Elma, New York. He understood the idea of SS before it was really an idea. Probably one of the most patient and tenacious implementors of Continuous Improvement you could ever meet. Always something to learn from him as long as you can live with him telling you everything three times and leaves the longest phone messages ever left on voice mail.
    We hear people whine about management buy in. Plant Managers would call Marty Rayl, Director Of Quality Assurance, and plead to have him pulled out of the factory because John was so tenacious. The only way Marty would pull him is after they did everything John wanted them to do and by then they understood the benefit.
    Why do we have little tolerance for the weak hearted that whine? We have seen John grind the worst of them into submission and then revive them as advocates. You had to see it to believe it.
    Just my opinion.

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    #188412

    MBBinWI
    Participant

    I could take it hands-down.  Anyone want to discuss Z-scores?

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