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    R
    Participant

    I took Six Sigma Black Belt course back in 2004. While I was taking the training in 2004 and almost all of 2005 I did everything in my work place other than Six Sigma. Now in 2006 I am given 2 projects to close and my problem is I forgot most of the stuff I learned in the class and never had a chance to apply the tools to better my skills / knowledge.
    Bottom line is I feel lost and I have asked for a refresher course bu was told there isn’t any available.
    What are my options?
    R

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    #138517

    Ken Feldman
    Participant

    Carnell is currently in the wilds of Africa trying to improve the mating habits of baboons or corporate executives, I forget which.
    As for refreshing your memory, I assume you still have the original training materials.  If so, that’s a good place to start.  If there are other BBs or MBBs in your company check with them.  You have to make a distinction between relearning the technical materials like stats and refreshing your memory on how to run a project team using DMAIC.  If there are other BBs you could possibly get them to share the Team Leader role with you until you get back up to speed.  You can post intelligently written and specific questions on this Forum and possibly get some guidance.  If you received your training from an inhouse person possibly they would agree to some personal tutoring.  Depending on where you are located, there might be some local resources where you can get a refresher.  I recently helped a BB offline over the course of a month doing a refresher in preparation for a BB exam and certification.  Others may have some helpful hints.

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    #138518

    R
    Participant

    Thanks Darth!
    As usual your post is informative and useful. Unfortunately I am the only person in our company that was sent for BB training and there is not a single person I can turn to for help. There is one BB in another company that is in the same campus but they are busy with their own work and can not make time to help.
    But I will continue to post here and hopefully this will help.
    thanks again,
    R

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    #138519

    Anonymous
    Guest

    Darth,
    That work has already been done in S. Africa. All it takes is a pot of flourescent blue paint :-)
    Andy

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    #138521

    Ken Feldman
    Participant

    I assume that is for the executives not the baboons. 

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    #138522

    Anonymous
    Guest

    Exec’s could always wear blue jeans … as some do in Texas.

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    #138541

    McD
    Participant

    R
    Presumably your training material included a roadmap or similar overall view.  Review that with a particular eye toward remembering what the objectives were of each phase.
    Don’t fixate on the tools, there are hundreds of them and any project will only use a few.  There is a series of little “Memory Jogger” books out there, I can’t recall who publishes them, but they are handy to help remember what tools you learned about.  Actually using the tools will probably require going back to the books, but the memory jogger is a compact way to recall what they were.
    Unfortunately, many programs really focus on the trees and spend precious little time on the forest.  Remind yourself about the overall process and focus on that. Once you have the right focus, application of a little common sense will lead you to the correct details.
    –McD
     

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    #138542

    R
    Participant

    Thanks McD …..
     
    If anyone can recall who the publishers are for these memory jogger books I would appreciate their help.
    Thanks again to all!
    R

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    #138543

    Jered Horn
    Participant

    Goal QPC
    (800) 643-4316
    Phone: (603) 893-4316
    Fax: (603) 870-9122
    E-mail: [email protected]
    Website: http://www.goalqpc.com

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    #138558

    Ken Feldman
    Participant

    Rath & Strong makes a nice one and the George Group has a bigger version with more indepth review of tools.  Both can be looked up on the Web.

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    #138569

    Lorax
    Participant

    http://www.goalqpv.com
    For the a nice one on tools: The Six Sigma Memory Jogger (ISBN 1-57681-044-5)
    I’d also recomend the Rath & Strong’s Six Sigma Team Pocket Guide (ISBN 0-07-141756-7)
    http://www.books.mcgraw-hill.com 

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    #138572

    villageidiot
    Member

    One Word….SIMPLIFY.  Scope it tightly, short time frame, small, localized teams, and manage the expectations of your direct reports by fully understanding and quantifying how they are going to define success for you and the projects.  If you have LEAN training and “improve” can be defined as increasing process throughput times or reducing staffing levels by improving productivity, this might be the way to go.  Don’t set yourself up for failure by doing to much….simple, simple, simple…..and even with that, you are going to have a real tough time being successful long term in 6S under those conditions….but who listens to me…good luck.

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    #138594

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    McD,
    At the risk of second guessing you I like those books that those guys in Indiana publish (I can’t remember the name of them). They are way to big for your pocket (it is something like this 3 inch green binder) but there is some good material in there to get you reaquainted with the tools and some of the theory.
    Regards

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    #138595

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    R,
    Sorry for the late response but as Darth said I was enroute to South Africa as for the sudies – probably better left unsaid.
    I wouldn’t worry about a refresher course. What you learned is still in your head you just need to find it. Start your projects by the numbers. If you need some help please feel free to email me at [email protected]. We should be able to figure out what you need to do.
    Good luck.

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    #138605

    McD
    Participant

    Mike
    I imagine there are a hundred sources to tickle the old gray cells.  The Memory Jogger was the first one that came to mind.  And it seemed to fit my mental picture of R, which is likely not terribly accurate since it is based on an extremely limited sample.
    –McD

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    #138607

    TAnderson
    Member

    Application is the biggest part of learning a new intiative.  Darth I have been there!  Mike you should offer your companies eLearning course for Darth.

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    #138610

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    McD,
    I just didn’t want to appear obstinate. The Memeory jogger stuff is a good pocket reference. It would seem that after a year off it may take a bit more jogging – it certainly does for me.
    Thanks.
    Regards

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    #138611

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    TAnderson,
    Couple issue with that. Fist Mike Cyger would boot me off the site since the rules specifically don’t allow me to do that.
    Second offering Darth elearning would be like throwing gas on a fire – I am sure he will see it soon enough and then I will get blasted.
    Good luck

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    #138612

    McD
    Participant

    Mike
    I wasn’t trying to sound offended by your input.  More data is always a good thing.
    I think your comment about “What you learned is still in your head” is right on target.  R just needs a little help remembering.  Alternative sources can’t help but be better.
    –McD
     

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    #138614

    Ken Feldman
    Participant

    Anderson,
    Maybe it’s a fuzzy Sunday but your post makes no sense to me.  I agree that application is where the rubber meets the road in any improvement initiative (not intiative).  I’ve been to Omaha but I’m not sure what that has to do with your post.  Mike has one company not plural companies.  Generally you would use “company’s” to indicate some possessive quality.  With all your nonsense aside, the original poster was questioning about refreshing some of his/her lost learning.  I and others made some recommendations.  Bottom line is that our Poster first needs to know what to do and how before he/she can do anything.  Yes, being able to apply learning is critical.  But, you have to know something before you can apply it.  Once the poster is confident in his/her knowledge of the methodology and tools then the next step is to go from the book to practical application.  You certainly didn’t offer any grand insights on how to do it but merely made yourself look foolish.

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    #138618

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    TAnderson,
    I told you it was like gas on a fire.
    The up side is he got the other whatever, BS, RHXYZ, worse. Must be recovering from a long night of salsa dancing (possibly on the tables) on SoBe and few Don Julio’s.
    Good luck.

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    #138619

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    McD,
    You didn’t sound offended but according to the Predictive Index (PI – BobWilsonConsulting.com – we use it to figure out the Black Belts in training) I am a 4 sigma A type personality. The good part was before I knew it life was simple – now that I know it I have to worry about how I am saying things – well maybe not worry – concerned – well not really concerned – aware – that works.
    There is nothing like teaching to find out what is really in your head.
    Take care.
    Regards

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    #138653

    TAnderson
    Member

    Darth,
    Thank you for the grammar lesson…my apologies sometimes I type too fast!  To respond to some of your questions I did read the original post drafted by R.  I agree that you can’t apply SS tools w/out knowing them first…according to R he knows the tools but just needs a refresher!  To clarify for you I merely meant that an individual like R can go through the BB training but if he/she does not apply what they have learned then recalling the DMAIC tools is difficult.  Your problem is that your ego got hurt since I implied that you were the one that needed the refresher course.
    I recently came across some helpful material provided by the COMPANY which was stated in my earlier post.  I would explain further but I do not want Mike Cyger to think that I am advertising for Mike Carnell’s company (I believe this clarifies the singular possessive quality).  Thank you again Darth for pointing out the grammar mistakes in my last post!   
    TAnderson
            
     

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    #138657

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    TA,
    Remember when your mother used to say “You are going to be in trouble when your dad gets home!” Guess what?
    Post 1 was gasoline.
    Post 2 was JP5.
    Good luck

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    #138675

    Ken Feldman
    Participant

    Anderson,
    Now you make sense.  Keep up the good work.

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