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    Orlando
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    Hi Reigle   I’mmmmm back.  I read some interesting comments on some thread numbers 5478? where the discussions centered around Mikel Harry and how he was the person chiefly responsible for the Six Sigma initiative.  I though “would be” historians or people interested in the beginnings of Six Sigma got a fair picture back several months ago when you and I went at it under the thread Richard Schroader, remember?  I spoke about the contributions various people made to the early development of this quality concept and the early history of Motorola and Six Sigma.  Remember, you were saying that Mikel Harry did it all himself and I tried to convey to you and the forum audiance that Six Sigma was more of a group contribution but chief among the contributors was Mario Perez-Wilson.  I understood this to be true because I worked in Motorola GEG when Mikel was there in the early eighties and I also worked in Motorola Semiconductor down the street.  I was also heavily involved in the Six Sigma community because I was a statistician.  So I knew many of the major players in the early years.What brings me to the point is the comments made by Annoymous under the thread I mentioned.”Mario Perz Wilson does not even mention Bill Smith or any other major contributor to the six sigma movement. His entries reads like a string of a process improvements that any good black belt could show after a few years of practice. After reading his so-called historical accounting it is obvious he was a front line engineer locked away on some project in the desert.”If Annoymous knew the dates on these entries perhaps he’ll realize that many of the entries predates Mikel Harry Six Sigma stuff.  Hello.  I pieced it together when a Forum reader named (SME)”Statistical Method Engineer” wrote to the Forum under the thread “Richard Schroader” in which he detailed a meeting that a group of them had in Asia where Mikel Harry was invited to attend.  Keep in mind that Mario Perez-Wilson trained all the SME’s around the world in the Six Sigma methods “Define Meas etc…” except he called it a five stage Machine/Process Capability study which included a section on measurement capability.  The reason I mentioned the “measurement” section was because in the early part of Mikel Harry’s vision of Six Sigma he did not have any section on measurement.  He saw it and liked it and took it as his own.  Well anyway, after Mikel attended the meeting he went back and started crafting alot of the methods in Six Sigma you see today.  I do not take anything away from Mikel Harry and his contributions but I do want to state that he alone was not Six Sigma.  What may have happened was:Back in the early eighties when Bob Galvin spoke about Motorola and getting on board with Six Sigma.  (I guess it was Bill Smith who brought it to him. What does Bob Galvin know about statistics anyway)  Bob Glavin and no one else had any clue on how to implement it, explain it, or apply it.  So everyone went off on their own.  Mikel Harry went into his Quantitative Lab in GEG and started thinking about it and writing some thoughts down.  After all Harry and Hathaway were responsible for SPC and all that process improvement stuff.  Meanwhile, in the manufacturing world Mario went to work and started applying it and writing on methods that worked.  Mario was given total responsibility for a Motorola divison which by the way was much bigger than GEG.  Mikel was still looking for material and brother he borrowed heavily.  I know because the Semiconductor group was way ahead of GEG in the process improvement effort.  So any invitation to what Semiconductor was doing was well worth the trip.  Which brings us back to that Asian meeting with Mario’s SME’sNow I have to get back to what annoymous said.  So you think that Mario was just a lowly engineer locked away in some desert and he did some process improvement.  Process improvement that any good black belt can show.  Hello he was the original MASTER BLACK BELT.  Mikel Harry is an academian who can explain Six Sigma to the nth degree and that’s why he is invited to board rooms.  Captains of industry are “safe” to invite someone who was associated with Welch etc..If I was running a business I will always turn to someone like Mario Perez-Wilson for advice.  If I wanted to know some statistical angle about Six Sigma so I can go on the Forum and give a good discussing about a fine point regarding the 1.5 shift then I’ll read Mikel Harry.

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    #107730

    Cone
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    Orlando,
    While I agree with you about Mikel’s alledged “contribution”, I would be interested in Mario’s take and whether he learned from someone else as well.
    Gary

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    #107746

    Orlando
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    Hi Gary
    I believe he learned from others as we all do and as Mikel Harry does.  But there is something different about this guy Mario.  He is a creative learner.  For example, when he was given the task of implementing the Six Sigma initiative in the division he was assigned,  (keep in mind that Schaumberg(Motorola Hdqutr) did not provide the roadmap to Six Sigma.  All they did was give the order to their Vp’s to get it done) he studied the matter and came up with the roadmap and the system to implement it.  These roadmaps and systems were coming up from all over Motorola, however it was truly recognized throughout all the Semiconductor Groups and Divsions that Mario Perez-Wilson had the best of the lot.  If fact when Reigle and I were writing back and forth about this several months ago I placed on the Forum a memo written by a VP and signed off by the President of Motorola Semiconductor that Mario Perez-Wilson had the best and most significant Six Sigma strategy.
    Back in GEG Mikel Harry, Reigle Stewart and John Hathaway and I believe Ron Lawson were putting in their contribution to the Six Sigma mandate.  GEG was a little job shop compared to the Semiconductor Sector so alot of that material coming out of Mikel and his crew were academic in structure.  That’s why when you read that material it has a theoretical component to Six Sigma where people like Douglas Montgomery and Bert Keats from ASU can take to heart and teach it.  And I may add throughout industry.
    Back in Semiconductor, there was no interest in teaching this to the world only in getting process improvement going in manufacturing.  So Mario was teaching material he created that worked in a real manufacturing world.  Remember all this stuff done by Mario pre-dates the stuff coming out of GEG.
    Mario had trained all the SME’s(Statistical Methods Eng)  that’s what his plan was.  To train a group of cadres in his method and they in turn train the rest in the division.  Sound familiar “Black Belts”.  In Asia there was a meeting held with all the SME’s and Mikel Harry was invited.  Mikel saw, he like, and he borrowed.  End of story.
    Here is an aside.  One of the SME told me that Mikel wanted to use the presentation material in his Six Sigma cases but the individual had to change all that Mario Perez-Wilson jargon.

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    #107757

    MBB Wanab
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    Sounds like this guy Harry was trying to take credit for others work from the beginning. Is that correct?

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