RR analysis for a brake fluid filling process
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April 16, 2005 at 11:20 pm #39046
Hector PerezParticipant@Hector-PerezInclude @Hector-Perez in your post and this person will
be notified via email.We have a tester after a fluid filler machine. what I want to know is how well the tester is working. The tester proves if the quantity of fluid filled in the brake system is correct.
Rigth now, the production guys are using a master to take samples in order to do a Gage R& R study, I`m not sure if this is correct since the R&R ask for the same samples to be measured by different operators.
Is it correct to use a R&R study here?
If yes, wich is the best way to take the samples to do that using the same master every time?
If not,wich is the best way to prove that the tester is doing the expected job?0April 17, 2005 at 2:15 pm #117918You want to know how well you can captur the variation in your fill operation across your specification range.Make up 10 samples that cover the span of your +/- specification, using pours from granuated beaker in your lab, or whatever way to have to get the amounts close (you are measuring R&R, not accuracy).The next step depends on whether you have actual manual operators, or if this is an automated measurement.
0April 25, 2005 at 7:18 am #118366Hello,
We need measurements by different operators when neccessary. In several cases “repeatability analysis would be enough. For instance, you have one operator for a spesific measurement or one tester like in your case.
In your case, it is also difficult to check “repetability” .
You simly need to keep fluid filling process under control.
In my opinion, a capability analysis is neccessary at first. Then you can apply pre-control to keep fluid quantity variation under control.
Regards
0April 25, 2005 at 10:17 am #118370Repeatability : when the same parts are measured multiple times by the same operator . Reproducibility when the same parts are mesured multiple time by different operators.When you say that each part is different and there is no way that it can be meausred twice by the same or different operator . I think a destructive GRR is appropriate in this case.
Just a suggesation !!0January 18, 2006 at 4:38 pm #132525
John BecqueParticipant@John-BecqueInclude @John-Becque in your post and this person will
be notified via email.I work at Nissan Forklift. We assemble forklifts at our facility. We also bleed brakes and need a better way or a machine to make the brake bleeding faster. Please Help!!
John Becque
Mfg Engineer0January 18, 2006 at 5:41 pm #132527
jediblackbeltParticipant@jediblackbeltInclude @jediblackbelt in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Hector –
I would look at performing an Interclass Coefficient Correlation (ICC) study. You can look information up by Don Wheeler you could also send me your email and I could get you an excel worksheet that explains it. What you primarily are doing is comparing the variation of a known standard with what you are measuring and see how much variation is attributable to measurement error either through the system or the gage – dependingon how you run the test.
You would take the reading off of your machine and then compare it to the amount you are getting out each time. Easy test to use. Works well in a lot of situations including things like inventory and transactional studies.0 -
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