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  • #157392

    Precious Ramotswe
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    Dear Stanley,Please save us a lot of time and effort, not to mention all the effort and pumkins. Tell us who you really are. Who, who are you ..Your friend,Precious

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    #157393

    Note Mokoti
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    Time to take the pumkin out of the pot and eat it, eh?

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    #157394

    Mikel
    Member

    Okay, since you asked nicely and made such a convincing plea – it’s Steve Jobs.

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    #157497

    BC
    Participant

    Mike,
    I gotta see the rats that look like aerials.  Do you have photos?  Also, have you ever eaten a durian, and if so, what is your opinion of it?  There’s a guy named Andrew Zimmern who does a TV program called Bizarre Foods.  He said the durian the only thing he’s ever tried that he couldn’t stomach.  A taste like rotted cabbage from a dumpster.
    Regards, BC

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    #159306

    Doc
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    you said…
    “If we did the PPAP’s and got the capability and controls that we pretend to, hardly any of this would be necessary.”
    If “we” were able to do that, none of US would be necessary as problem solvers, now would we…
    Fact is, PPAP’s are usually just a list of items to check off, and the “meat” of what underlies each of those check items is rarely, if ever thoroughly completed.
    And as for the argument of 6 sigma vs. Shainin, you’re all like two mechanics arguing about whether it’s better to use a crescent wrench or an open end wrench.

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    #161201

    mark rauchfuss
    Participant

    Track down Tim Nelson via the net. Tim is an expert in Shanin techniques. He hails from Clemson University, and has a long-standing business based training in same.
    Good luck,
    mark

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    #161208

    Mikel
    Member

    Mark,You Clemson boys are a little slow. You answered a four year old post.What makes someone an expert in Shainin techniques? It’s pretty
    simple stuff.

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    #161917

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Stan,
     
    Is there anyone in this forum that has not acknowledged you as a jerk?
    Try doing something with the numerous cases of feedback you’ve been given.
     
    Steve
     

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    #161923

    Mikel
    Member

    Stevie,
    You have a choice of MSA or ISO Plot – which tool are you using?
    Hint: Neither will serve you well with time to failure data.

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    #161924

    Brandon
    Participant

    Guys, he posted the query 4 years ago – do you think he’s still considering the job?

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    #161926

    Mikel
    Member

    If he is trolling with Shainin as the bait, he is probably still looking.

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    #161927

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Stanley,
    MSA is not a tool, its a study. Its not just a Kappa Analysis, or Gage R&R, or other tool, its a study of the entire measurement study. Don’t try to take the discussion to a new place just to try to prove you know something. Who are you trying to impress Stan, its surely not anyone on this forum. MSA has nothing to do with time to failure data? Where do you come up with this stuff?
    Steven Bonacorsi

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    #161930

    Mikel
    Member

    MSA is a tool.
    You do MSA on your watch to make sure you get out of bed with your girlfriend sometime in the middle of the afternoon? That was an impressive revelation you made last week, hard working execs and military officers probably were impressed too.

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    #161934

    Steven Bonacorsi
    Member

    Stanley,
    I’m giving up for the night. I’m glad to know your not a Master Black Belt, we don’t need you misleading others in thinking MSA is a tool (when it’s not), its a study (a Gage R&R is a tool but that is only a part of an MSA).
    I do agree with the comedian Ron White when he said “you can’t fix stupid”, your hopeless Stan.
    Later,
    Steven Bonacorsi

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    #161936

    Brandon
    Participant

    Stan – lmao!!

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    #161937

    Mikel
    Member

    MSA is a tool and Six Sigma is a method. Nothing more.
    I am not a Master Black Belt, I certified some of the originals to carry the title – you would not have cut it.

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    #161941

    Bev
    Participant

    Stan,
    You’re incorrect. MSA is a method not a tool. See the ISixSigma dictionary or read below.
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    Measurement system analysis (MSA) is an experimental and mathematical method of determining how much the variation within the measurement process contributes to overall process variability.There are five parameters to investigate in an MSA: bias, linearity, stability, repeatability and reproducibility.According to AIAG (2002), a general rule of thumb for measurement system acceptability is:
    Under 10 percent error is acceptable.
    10 percent to 30 percent error suggests that the system is acceptable depending on the importance of application, cost of measurement device, cost of repair, and other factors.
    Over 30 percent error is considered unacceptable, and you should improve the measurement system.AIAG also states that the number of distinct categories the measurement systems divides a process into should be greater than or equal to 5.In addition to percent error and the number of distinct categories, you should also review graphical analyses over time to decide on the acceptability of a measurement system. Reference:Automotive Industry Action Group (AIAG) (2002). Measurement Systems Analysis Reference Manual. Chrysler, Ford, General Motors Supplier Quality Requirements Task Force.

    Posted By: Modified By: P.Vimala RaoLast Modified: Aug. 29, 2003

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    #161942

    Steven infalted titles
    Member

    Technicaly a Gage study is a Gage capability study. That clearly contradicts the idea that Gage R&R is a “tool”. There are several ways to conduct these studies. One way is to estimate the gage capability via a designed experiment (most frequently used in Six Sigm), but other more general methods to estimate the variances can also be used. 
    1. Gage studies are most frequently executed by a DOE a reseach design
    2. ANOVA is the statical model underlying the interpretation of the DOE (more succinctly, it’s the general model of combining linear parameters including an error term)
    3. Gage studies form the focus and the context of the usage of DOEs (that”s the study desing that Steven cannot discern) and ANOVA (the statistical model underlying this design) is used with a goal to decompose the variability associated with product, repeatibility and reproducibility in oder to assess the impact of the Gage on process capability.
    Steven’s response, again, is not even at the level of the Wilkipedia as can be expected from a graduate of two totally worthless “masters’s ” programs that are not even regionally accredited. Unfortantely, with the acclaimed experience, the over-inflated title and absolutely worthless degrees, Steven is in no condition to effectively articulate his argument. Also, to break it to him in the nicest terms, Master Blacks are not even partial statisticians. So if Steven wants to create a social hierarchy here, he is definitely at the lower end. In any case, he fully destroyed his credibility because he is not even able to succinctly communicate the core relationshipbs between MSA, GAGE study, DOE, ANOVA and varaiance decomposition. He has an almost pathological urge to back up his insignificant, fuzzy and unclear statements with a “Lean Six Sigma  Master Black Belt” title. But that’s to be expected when the actual knowledge does not reflect the expectations associated with the title and the arguements so unsubstantial that he cannot live up to the expectations het set, once one scratches the surface.

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    #161946

    Mikel
    Member

    Bev,
    I’ve got a news flash for you. iSixSigma is not an athority on Six Sigma tools and methods.

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    #161947

    Advice to Bev
    Participant

    Bev,
    Bev,
    Before you start “mouling off” about terms that you don’t really understand, even a quotation from AAIG (2002) will not help. Please read up on the differences between the terms: method, model, and tool. An experimental design is clearly a “study method”, i..e. “research design”; ANOVA is based on a model (but also contains various statitstical computations techniques). Resisual analysis would make no sense if it wasn’t used to determine to what degree the assumed model reflects the underlying data structure. Statistics is about precision. Please be more precise in your future contributions!

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    #161949

    Bev
    Participant

    I’ve been reading the boards and it’s obvious you think you are – not. I am a statistician and looks like you know just enough to be dangerous.

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    #162123

    anon
    Participant

    Aftern the Google search all those Military officers and hard working execs are probably asking how old the girlfriend is.
    Good question on how he was hired at GE.

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    #162132

    Mikel
    Member

    the real question for me is why talk about the awards?

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    #162133

    Mikel
    Member

    So the real question is how dumb is he to bring attention to awards for working with kids. His 4th award was time with the state.
    The price of arrogance…………
    Stevie, any response?

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    #162134

    Mikel
    Member

    Bev,
    You really this clown’s girlfriend. What about Amy?
    Run girl run. A leopard can’t change it’s spots.

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    #162142

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    Nonsense
    It  is  not  the  same  person

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    #162144

    Mikel
    Member

    Want to bet?

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    #162186

    GB
    Participant

    Steven,
    If you only had an inkling about who Stan really is…
    He’s right on.   Judging from your linkedin profile, you and I are aprox the same age, with very similar experiences (Yes, I’m an MBB).   Stan was doing this stuff when you and I were still chasing college tail.    Stan can come off a bit gruff, but it is an honest, authentic approach.  In the end, he’s right, more often than not.  
    BTW, 6S is a method and MSA is a tool, not unlike yourself…

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    #162201

    Chad Taylor
    Participant

    You know the sad thing is Stevies Girlfriend is kinda hot, or at least has that far away look, the Blair witch video blurriness is hard to tell.
    A Little searching shows TMI about this guy

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    #162207

    GB
    Participant

    Very similar WORK experiences, that is.
    Geez, google is most definitely not Steven’s friend…

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