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  • #48291

    Beer
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    Will we ever have a beer company step up to the plate and make a six sigma quality beer every single time?

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    #162216

    GB
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    That would be Guinness, my good man!

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    #162219

    Beer
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    So it can produce with less than 3.4 DPMO?

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    #162222

    Brandon
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    Depends on what you define as a defect. If the CTQ is making one more intelligent, then they all pretty much work the same.

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    #162224

    GB
    Participant

    If you have to ask, than you obviously haven’t collected enough data.
    You are a “no-go” at this station.   Report to your nearest stocking dealer and enact a redefined sampling strategy.

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    #162225

    SB
    Member

    Let me finish a million, then I’ll let you know.
     

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    #162231

    Beer
    Participant

    Excellent point Brandon,
    Here is a short list of defects areas that need correction
    1. I can’t afford a beer :-(
    2. The beer is not cold enough
    3. Too much or too little or not the best tasting hops
    4. My beer went stale – oh Nooooooooooooooooo
    5. I can’t taste my beer – ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    6. I’ll taste my beer when this head goes down
    7. When consumed from a can or bottle you lose the smell
    8. Beer is too light, too dark, or too cloudy
    9. Beer is too young – I can still taste the yeast
    10. What? You ran out of my Six Sigma beer?

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    #162233

    GB
    Participant

    discrete data is not prefferred.
    Try developing some continuous measures.

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    #162234

    Confused
    Participant

    Sample size my friend – then add some benchmarking too
    no kidding – let the data collection begin

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    #162236

    clb1
    Participant

    ….so if CTQ’s are those things Critical To Quaffing then we really don’t want a beer that will have 3.4 DPMO (Drunks Per Million Ounces) anything that weak wouldn’t make its first sale!

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    #162237

    Beer
    Participant

    I’m all for consuming beer continuously

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    #162267

    Confused
    Participant

    I am 95% confident that there is a statistical difference between a Guiness and Miller beer!
    clb1 – of course i considered the CTQ – so was going to do some VOC (Vodka and Orange with the Customer) to ensure we are on the same page, then a QFD (Quick Funnel Drink) before I catorgorize into a KANO analysis to ensure I have the right customer segments. I realize I have some BETA risks (Bad Ethanol Tolerance Analysis) but hoping to work in the 50/4 rule (or 80/20) whichever becomes clearer to me first.

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    #162270

    Ashman
    Member

    Initially I am 95% confident as well.  As time goes on my confidence level diminishes some what and can not tell the difference nor care about the difference between the two.

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    #162281

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    With alcohol or  without?

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    #162282

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    11.Need  to  visit  the  dirty “bathroom” several  time

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    #162299

    Darth
    Participant

    Recently returned from a trip to Munich.  Now them boys can brew up a beer or two.  Fell in love with Weiss Beer, an unfiltered wheat beer that gives a great head when poured.  Also visited the world’s oldest brewery founded in 1040 by monks.  Practice makes perfect because that there’s pretty potent beer.

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    #162300

    Mikel
    Member

    I agree with Guiness. Kalik Gold Red Stripe for when you are in the
    islands mood are good.

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    #162304

    Putnam
    Participant

    I was told at the brewery that Guiness is blended to taste from multiple batches.  If they have to blend the original beer batches to acquire the desired taste, wouldn’t that put the overall process pretty far down the old DPMO curve?  Let’s not even talk about batch processing…
    Besides, there’s alway Beamish…

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    #162311

    Stevo
    Member

    Schmidt had bad flavor down every time.  Over 6 sigma.
    Stevo
    Ps. – Gotta love that animal beer.

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    #162314

    w. g. miller
    Member

    Seriously, folks, I was told in college that a lot of the basics for statistical quality control (e.g.; “Student’s T”) were developed by a W. Gossett for Guinness.  This was back in the 1830s, when the fermentation process was not understood.  Once Pastuer did his fermentation work, the way was clear for brewers to make consistent products.
    These days, all big and most small brewers are good at making a consistent product.  Whether these products are consistently good or consistently bad is a matter of taste and beyond the scope of this post.
     

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    #162315

    Ashman
    Member

    Sounds like you need to try brewing your own beer.  Did it once a long time ago.  We didn’t use any special equipment.  A very large pot, ingredients that you can choose with your taste, glass bottles and caps.  A good yeast is important.

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    #162316

    Adam L Bowden
    Participant

    From a customers perspective – Guiness provided customer satisfaction wih just 3.4 Drinks Per Month Only (3.4 DPMO)  :^)
    Adam

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    #162318

    clb1
    Participant

      I think the 1830’s were a bit before his time. Gossett was born in 1876.  He developed his test method around 1900 and published it in 1908.

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    #162319

    Terry
    Member

    I’ve been spending a lot of off-work time in London pubs and Munich beer gardens these days, and I’ve tasted many six sigma beers there !  They make fun of our U.S. new world brands.

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    #162325

    GB
    Participant

    I’ll give you that Darth…Guinness aside, Hofbrauhaus-Munchen is indeed top drawer!
    I’m getting thirsty…

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    #162377

    Beer
    Participant

    Cheers to Gossett

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    #162393

    kING
    Participant

    Looking forward to a Fosters afterwork myself

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    #162397

    Beer
    Participant

    Fake, 5s your bathroom and don’t forget to celebrate with a cold one afterwards. Kudo’s to positive reinforcements!!!!!

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    #162398

    Beer
    Participant

    Without alcohol?
    Looking for Six Sigma beer – not root beer :-)~

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    #162428

    boettler
    Member

    You could check out this post on my blog:http://learnsigma.com/six-sigma-alcohol/Here’s a snippet:At Six Sigma Vineyards and Winery we combine the old-world art of making wine with the science of data-driven Six Sigma principles. To accomplish this, we have gathered a team of experts working with us towards a common goal: Making wine of an extraordinary quality at an affordable price.The data-driven principles of Six Sigma are employed, not only in the wine-making process as such, but in all stages of the process, for example when we:* Conduct extensive analyzes of soil, water and climate to find the most favorable sites for our vineyards.
    * Choose rootstocks that thrive best in the soil composition of a given vineyard.
    * Meticulously prune vines to enhance the quality of grapes and to allow consistent ripening.
    * Apply chemical and sensory analyzes to pick the grapes at just the right time to produce optimal flavor in the wine.
    * Listen to the voice of the customer – whether you are a sophisticated wine drinker with well-defined preferences, a social wine drinker who knows what you like and wants the security of consistency, or you just want a good place to start.Rob

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    #162582

    Confused
    Participant

    Were you there for October fest? Do they sell the monk beer or do you have to go there to try it? I’m confused – monks make beer – nice!?

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    #162596

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Beer,
    I have not read all the posts in this string so I apologize if this is redundant.
    The SAB Miller Company (SAB = South African Breweries) has a Six Sigma program. I don’t have any first hand knowledge of it outside of South Africa and I don’t know if they have a project specifically targeted at creating a SS beer – whatever that would mean.
    It is an interesting company. They have a pretty amazing growth profile over the last decade.
    Good luck.

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    #162598

    JStephen
    Participant

    I work for SAB in the states and I am currently getting my Black Belt.  My projects have been focused heavy on waste, but I am in the middle of a DOE that has Y’s of Fill height and TPO (total packaged oxygen).  The lower the TPO the fresher the beer……

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    #162600

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    JStephen,
    I can see where a beer characteristic such as freshness could be measured at some sigma level. But the original question was can/will there be a SS beer would seem to impossible for the beer drinking market in general. I can see it for a market segment possibly.
    The MSA would be interesting.
    You definately have a SS bar at HQ in Sandton.
    Good luck.

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    #162602

    Beer
    Participant

    I look forward in trying out the SAB Miller beer someday

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    #162604

    Beer
    Participant

    God bless you, man
    Thank you and your team for all your work in making great beer
    I believe i speak for the majority when I state that we stand together on this forum to assist you in any way
    Cheers

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    #162605

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Beer,
    You need to checkout their website. They own a lot of different brands. You may be drinking one currently.
    Regards

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    #162607

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    I  believe  more  important is  to  develop a SS car

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    #162609

    Beer
    Participant

    I agree, we need 6-sigma cars so we can:
    a. drive to get our 6-sigma beer
    b. drive to get the munchies to enjoy with our 6-sigma beer
    c. drive to court to pay our 6-sigma drunk driving fine
    d. all of the above

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    #162610

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    Great nonsense:SS Beer  with  alcohol specially  when  driving  a  car.

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    #162611

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    What  about SS Girls?

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    #162612

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    Warum?
    Sprechen  sie  deutsch?

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    #162613

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    How  it  comes that SS is  using  so  an  old  tool and  pretends to  be  an  advanced approach? Please  explain as  I’m  confused 

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    #162614

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    If  such  a  SS Beer would  be produced  I  suggest  an  attractive Brand name: Stan Beer .Do  you  agree? waiting  for  your  kind  approval  to  start  the production  line  

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    #162622

    S Cubed
    Member

    Do any of you people have jobs or did you all get your BB’s and retire?

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    #162624

    Darth
    Participant

    No, we all got our MBBs, worked many decades, saved and invested our money, retired and now play and seek to pass along a little of our knowledge and experience.  A worthy path for others to follow.

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    #162627

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    Very  Good  Point

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    #162628

    fake accrington alert
    Participant

    An  Excellent  Visional Answer,brief  and  impressive.

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    #162643

    Beer
    Participant

    Even better would be Lean GG girls serving SS Beer
    but we’re dreaming – i’ll settle for a 3-sigma girl

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    #162644

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    S Cubed,
    I see this type of post every now and then. The part that I find interesting is that just maybe you make that judgement because you are looking at in the context of what you have for a job and the hours you work. Just maybe some of us don’t go to an office every day and work from 9 to 5. Just maybe Darth did invest well. Just maybe some people choose to do this rather than watch TV at night. Maybe some people are working late at night and run the discussion forum in the background so when they take a break they can see what is going on.
    Have you ever considered you post is a little judgemental and perhaps you have some tunnel vision going on?

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    #162647

    Darth
    Participant

    GG Girls?  How demeaning. 

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    #162649

    Brandon
    Participant

    Beer – settling for 3 sigma girls….enough beer will do that to you. Enough beer and the clock….

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    #162648

    Beer
    Participant

    You don’t like GG (Golden Girls)?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfU-xCk7nNc
    Have a beer and enjoy

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    #162940

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Beer,
    It may happen before you realize. If you checkout the news SAB is working on a deal to buy Coors. That will make them #1 in the world and #2 in the US. I think it was Auggie that said he didn’t want to be the #1 beer in the US. He wanted to be the only beer in the US. It looks like the people in South Africa have set their sights on that same spot.
    I told you these guys were aggressive.
    Good luck

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    #162943

    Beer
    Participant

    Fantastic
    I love Coors
    Cheers

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    #162971

    Bo
    Participant

    I have to agree with Mike Carnell. Take the post for what it is and move on. Did you really think you were going to gain a plethora of SS insight from the subject “Six Sigma Beer”?

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