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    Westfield
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    I am a Six Sigma Black Belt and want to familiarise myself with the components of Lean that make up Lean Six Sigma, withoutΒ suffering the duplication (= waste!) inherent in doing entire Lean Six Sigma training. Apart from reading “Lean Thinking” (Womack and Jones) does anyone have any helpful suggestions?

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    #166807

    Aquinas
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    Wakefield,
    I learned Lean after becoming a BB myself. Many of the concepts in Lean are very different than the traditional BB skill set. The math is actually much more simple, but things like VSM, cycle times, and takt are conceptually different.
    I would suggest taking a course that targets Lean specifically. I took mine at Villanova U, and thought it was very good. Inevitably, there is some crossover with SS, such as looking at variation, but there are also many other novel tools and concepts to explore.
    If you don’t want to take a class, you can get the Lean Six Sigma, Lean Six Sigma for Service and Lean Toolbook??..these texts are by Michael George, and are very good. Even so, VSM, TPM and cellular manufacturing concepts are probably best studied where you can practice them as well.
    Good Luck.

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    #166810

    Mikel
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    You think Michael George’s books are good?Yikes!

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    #166812

    Aquinas
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    Stan,
    What would you suggest?

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    #166814

    Mikel
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    ISBN-13: 978-1897363591ISBN-13: 978-0915299034ISBN-13: 978-0915299171ISBN-13: 978-0915299072ISBN-13: 978-0978638757That would be a good start. Out of the Crisis by Deming would also
    be good.

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    #166818

    BC
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    Stan,
    When I entered the first ISBN number into Amazon.com’s search, I get three responses.Β  “Eat, Pray, Love” by Elizabeth Gilbert;Β  “Eat This Not That” by David Zinczenko and “A Thousand Splendid Suns” by Khaled Hosseini.Β  I assume ANY of these would be valuable reading for a BB, but I’m not sure which one you intended, or did you intend all three?
    In all seriousness, can you provide the author instead of ISBN?Β  It’s a little more user-friendly.Β  (And I’m disappointed Amazon won’t recognize the international code for books!) Β I’ve tried reading Liker and he’s just way too dry for a Lean beginner like me.
    Thanks,
    BC

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    #166819

    Mikel
    Member

    That’s Amazon default when it does not understand your request.Type in Shingo. The Michael George stuff is a bunch of lightweight marketing hype.
    Michael could not do Lean or Six Sigma to save his life, he is a good
    marketeer.

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    #166820

    BC
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    Thanks.

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    #166821

    Joe BB
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    Almighty Stan is the only one in the world who knows and who can do Lean or six sigma.

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    #166822

    Mikel
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    Joe honey,
    Good to have you back, now go away.
    What would you suggest for learning Lean?

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    #166825

    Aquinas
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    Stan,
    I’ll take my lumps in terms of the George material not being very good with the nuts and bolts of Lean…and it is heavy on the marketing/consultancy approach. However, since my response was intended for someone who is already a BB, my original thought is that I do think the books do a nice job of presenting a blended view of Lean/SS.
    Admittedly, I may also be mixing up some of my memory of the actual Villanova coursework and the contents of the books – they were the texts. In any case, there are plenty of other great books out there, Learning to See, etc., but in the end, the concepts are what is important, and the organization will figure out how to implement them.
    by the way…I am not a consultant, I am in the trenches, and still found these books (the series) valuable.
    –just my take – I don’t think they’re a waste (no pun intended :>)

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