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    R C
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    ISBN: 0-7645-6798-5
    By: Craig Gygi, Neil Decarlo, Bruce WilliamsIs this a good resource for learning more deeply about Six Sigma? I have been using it during my first Green Belt undertaking and I think it has been valuable in pointing me in the right direction.Has anyone else perused through this book and found it useful, accurate, and reliable?I appreciate the experienced opinion of most of the members of this board, thanks.

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    #181097

    Reviewer
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    No, Craig, Neil or Bruce, whichever of you this is, it’s not really that good.

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    #181098

    R C
    Participant

    I’m neither.  I’m a Manufacturing Engineer looking for serious answers from a professional mannered community.  Are these forums run by middle schoolers or did the user-base migrate over from World of Warcraft?

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    #181099

    Kluttz
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    Reality check – you’re asking a community of process improvement professionals if “Six Sigma for Dummies” is an effective resource.
    Exactly what sort of response did you think you would get? 

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    #181101

    R C
    Participant

    I was looking for a more serious response.  The ‘For Dummies’ series has notably been a success with some sort of niche, so naturally I wanted to evaluate whether this ‘niche’ is full of, what someone else on this board so eloquently put it, “hacks, wannabes and incompetents.” -Darth
    I provided the ISBN of the book as well as the Authors to see if they were noteworthy and reliable.  The content of the book seems very throrough and well written in laying out the fundamentals.  I am using this in the stead of a review book that we were promised at the end of our Green Belt training that we didn’t receive.  I could very well be asking this same question in another forum about iSixSigma.com regarding it’s integrity and reliablity, and I’m sure YOU would be appauled if their answer was similar to the above response.  The current content on this forum is starting to suggest it isn’t a group of any sort of professionals.

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    #181104

    Taguchi
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    #181107

    R C
    Participant

    Taguchi, your responses are not visible, there might be a problem with your font.

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    #181110

    R C
    Participant

    A link to the publisher page on titles concerning Six Sigma: http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/Section/id-WILEY2_SEARCH_RESULT.html?query=six%20sigma

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    #181111

    Mikel
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    Even though you have made broad sweeping generalizations about all of us, I’ll still answer your question.
    The book is okay without too many errors, although there are several. It is written by good guys, especially Craig, who are heavy on passion and light on experience. DiCarlo is a professional writer with no background, but he played the role well.
    If you are looking for a serious resource, either go to the old standard – Juran’s Handbook (his quality planning and analysis is quite good too) or to Breyfogle’s Implementing Six Sigma. If you do Breyfogle, skip his S4 nonsense, it just makes for complication without value.

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    #181112

    Taylor
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    RC
    Trust me, you don’t want to see what Taguchi post anyway.
    The book you speak of is a good source for starting out and has some basic fundamentals that are easy to grasp and understand. As you find though, by reading other authors and even engaging in forum post, there underlies a difference in opinion about Six Sigma and its purpose.  I suggest carry on with your mission of learning find other books on the subject, especially those which introduce lean tools in conjunction with Six Sigma and continue your learning goal. The best teacher is “doing”, apply the tools you have learned and ask questions whenever possible.
    You will find that coming to the forum is sometimes brutal, but as the old saying goes, their are no stupid questions.
     

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    #181113

    Mikel
    Member

    Taguchi,
    This post and the other blank one from you are the best contibution you’ve made in days.
    Keep up the good work.

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    #181114

    R C
    Participant

    Thanks a lot, Stan.  Just what i was looking for.
    I apologize for the broad, sweeping generalization, it’s just that I’ve been following iSixSigma since I was introduced to Six Sigma and noticed a recent trend toward unprofessional behavior that I’d hate to see taint it’s reputation.

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    #181118

    Mikel
    Member

    I missed the point about wanting review materials. This is the best for that purpose –
    http://www.qualitycouncil.com/cssgb_p.asp

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    #181119

    luke skywalker
    Participant

    Fun thread so far, and understandably frustrating if you’re sincere about getting a straight answer.
    As books on SS go, it’s fine. They all have pros and cons and are all dependent on your starting point as an individual. If you’re going through GB, prsumably it’s provided by some trainer type with a big, honkin’ binder of power point slides. That binder should get you through a lot of the static.
    Books that are “good”? Anything by Peter Pande. He writes with a good, practical point of view and makes it approachable.
    The “Dummies” book will be a good guide for stuff you might ask along the way, but keep in mind, that since there is no standardized BOK for SS, the books will probably not synch up with your specific training experience.
    I’m happy to continue the dialog offline if you’d like. Let me know and I’ll provide a different e-mail addy.
     
    Cheers.

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    #181120

    Taguchi
    Member

    Can be used as a reference guidebook,some

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    #181136

    Obiwan
    Participant

    R C
    I have not perused the Six Sigma for Dummies book per se, but I have used the Statistics for Dummies book quite often, particularly with people just starting out in statistics.  You might consider picking it up as well.
    Someone suggested you look into a few lean books as well…a few suggestions…
    Kaizen by Masaaki Imai
    Gemba Kaizen by Masaaki Imai
    Two kind of basic, but good read books…Understanding Variation by Don Wheeler and I Know it When I See It (don’t remember author)
    Finally…the suggestion of Juran’s Handbook might be a touch overwhelming…but his Quality Planning and Analysis is very good.
    Obi

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    #181137

    Taguchi
    Member

    Villanova has prepared impressive BOK for SSBB!

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    #181139

    Hans Solo
    Participant

    Obi, as I perused your post I was reminded of Orson Welles, perhaps, a bit more impressed by the words he uttered than with what he said per se. He would present himself that way quite often, you know. It was all so very overwhelming to contemplate the essense of his muses.
    So I quit trying.

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    #181141

    Taguchi
    Member

    Thanks
    The book is good for those preparing themselves for the SSGB.
    Comprehensive and wrapping up at the same time.
    Just consider the quote of Stephen Covey at the foreword:In a knowledge economy where 70-80 percent  of the value added to goods and services comes from knowledge work,can you imagine the results flowing from having the entire workforce Six Sigma literate? 

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    #181142

    Taguchi
    Member

    Thank You

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    #181147

    MrMHead
    Participant

    Taguchi!  You Speak!
    Have you finished your round of Zen postings for the day?  ;-)
    (All in jest)

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    #181149

    Obiwan
    Participant

    Han
    Hopefully I was not quite so dense!
    Obiwan

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    #181168

    lonesharke
    Participant

    R C,
    I also own the book and have used it on occasion for reference.  I have also used it to loan to “process owners” prior to a project launch.  Sometimes I assign a section to read as prework before team launch.
    Although this site (and discussion forum) has been very helpful to me in my role as a BB, I concurr that some of the content of this forum has recently been less then professional.  I encourage those that might participate in this forum to refrain from silly or insultive posts. (a little bit of either goes a long way) 
    FYI- My last employer put a link to this site on their website and encouraged all managers to review the articles.  So remember…the customer is always watching and in these tough times CI folks don’t need to tarnish our reputation (any further)…sponsors/customers are looking to us for help, not jokes.
    Just my thoughts.

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    #181225

    Roger G Preece
    Member

    Anyone interested in Six Sigma needs to start at some point.  My recommendation would be to complete a “good” Six Sigma training program, surround yourself with a network of competent Black Belts, and build you knowledge through experience and further reading.  If you feel that “Six Sigma for Dummies” would fit into your reference book collection, that is your personal choice.  Just remember, the content is very basic and not targeted for professional BBs/MBBs.

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