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    Seans
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    Six Sigma Green Belt seems like not important at all…if we have Black Belt, then what for need Green Belt?
    what do you all think?

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    #66725

    Dave P
    Participant

    Green belts are an asset to any black belt in terms of data collection. It can be very hard for a company to release people for data collection, but when there are green belts in all areas of buisenes, data collection is easier. Green belts, having been given the the basic structure for a better way of thinking are often more aware of smaller problems that they can fix in there own areas.

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    #66727

    mand
    Member

    as someone who has certified as a greenbelt, then as a black belt, i must agree that greenbelts are invaluable. not only for the data collection side, they also help to spread the word. true, they do get on with projects in their ‘own areas’ but also lead the blackbelt into areas which might be out of the greenbelts expertise. eg where it gets a bit more political or needs in depth stats analysis.

    greenbelts are the change agents who form an essential part of the critical six sigma mass. i just wish i had some working for me!

    Sam Meeuwissen
    Six Sigma Blackbelt

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    #66731

    Chad
    Participant

    Green Belts are the “hands on” people that have lived the processes day in and day out. They are a valuable source of information acquired during years of work experience within a company. Overlooking Green Belts can cause Black Belts to invest valuable time searching for data. If they ask a Green Belt a Black Belt gets the information and a Team memeber all in one.

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    #66734

    boettler
    Member

    Green Belt training gives the team members the tools they need to attack the problem. The team member should understand the Quality tools and the team building tools before he is asked to be on ateam. For teams to work at their peak, the team has to be prepared from the beginning of the project. Time is so valuable when it comes to project team time. Teams get bogged down early when they have only one process expert (Black Belt)and the team is made up of all subject matter experts. A Black Belt struggles to keep the team focused on the process and still lead the team through the subject matter when solving problems that do not have easy solutions. Many different agendas are present during any early meeting and the team has only one try to get through each of those mine fields. Each team member must also sell the solution that is arrived at so he must have training in selling Change. He may have to work with other groups away from the team also. The team will build confidence in their solutions faster if they can function as a team and not as a group of agendas being manipulated by an outsider (Black Belt).

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    #66736

    Lemley
    Participant

    I see Green belts as invaluable components for any Six Sigma program. Not every person wants to lead implementation like a MBB or BB, but most everyone wants to improve processes. A company with packed with Green belts should have an incredible ability to improve from within on a more daily basis.

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    #66737

    Carl George
    Participant

    I don’t know if the definitions of ‘Green Belt ‘ and
    ‘Black Belt’ are different in Britain. As I understand
    a ‘Green Belt’ has the same training as a ‘Black
    Belt’, but are only allocated to work on projects for
    20% of their time, the rest of their time is spent in
    their usual jobs.
    Admittedly, a ‘GB’ will only complete two to three
    projects a year, whereas a ‘BB’ usually has about
    six projects on the go at any one time.
    A company could easily justify the cost of having
    25+ ‘GBs’ working in their usual roles, as opposed
    to 5 ‘BBs’ soley working on projects. Therefore I
    think that ‘GBs’ are an invaluable part of a
    company.
    Basically, many, many people working to improve a
    company’s profitability has got to be a good thing!
    And therefore ‘GBs’ are invaluable to a company
    wishing to become ‘world class’

    Carl George
    Six Sigma Green Belt

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    #66778

    Andy Steeper
    Participant

    A Green Belt is someone who has been trained in DMAIC and has successfully completed one project. A Blackbelt has successfully completed two projects (at least through the measurement phase of the second). As a UK BB I went through this process (although I was trained in the U.S.). I am not sure if the criteria is different for BB’s trained in the UK.

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    #66813

    Jayaraman Anand
    Participant

    Consider these two situations.

    1. A project you plan to pick will open a process owners can of worms. he is the biggest roadblock to the project sucess. If he is GB trained, make him run the poroject. Most companies give browney points to someone on his performance appraisal when he runs GB projects. Winner here will be the company coz results are still materialised

    2. A project is too long in timeline and the company requires results too soon. Alternatively the scoping becomes too big and the better way to run it is to split it into cluster projects and make 4 – 5 GBs with small scope run it. Collate the results and derive big gains.

    BBs in such cases will have to be mentors for such projects. This is one of the ways BBs utilise the resource pool of GBs in the company.

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    #67224

    T N Goh
    Member

    I don’t believe in this kind of simple-minded calibration – one project, two projects, etc. What about the quality of a project? What postitive outcome has been generated by a project? Someone could do a terrible project (or TWO terrible projects), and you reward him, regardless, with some belt of some color? That’s nonsense.

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    #68209

    Romesh Juneja
    Member

    I completely agree with you. At one of our plants, GB’s have completed their training and are now working on their own project.
    The goal is, for each GB, to save money equivalent to their one year’s salary (on their first project or on their first two projects).
    GB’s can be very powerful if utilized correctly.

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    #144337

    marie
    Participant

    Cal, Thank you for your straight-forward concise remarks regarding Green Belts as an invaluable component.  Your insight is on-target with “Not every person wants to lead implementation  . . . but everyone wants to improve processes.”
    It seems many would consider Green Belts as ‘gophers’ of data . . . data collection is more than simple measurements and compilation of numbers.  A good GB, BB and MBB must know, understand and implement the BASIC statistical techniques that underly this and all sigma programs.  GBs have the on the job familarity and actual process-flow knowledge that can make a signifcant difference in project result.  Of course, this is only if the GB is recognized as more than a ‘data collector’ ‘data compilor’.    Statistics RULE !!!!

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