SPC for Non normal data
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February 7, 2006 at 1:54 pm #42309
Greetings!
I am working on a project where i need to use robust SPC charts to monitor the process and i have a few questions.
The presumption of SPC is that it is works well on (a)normally distributed data and
(b)the data points are independent.
I have non normal data and am not sure whether my data points are auto correlated.
What kind of SPC charts do i use for Non Normal data?
How do i eliminate the possibility of Auto correlation? If my data is auto correlated, how do i proceed to do SPC on them?These answers will be very valuable to me.
Thanks in advance,
AN0February 7, 2006 at 2:06 pm #133504
Ken FeldmanParticipant@DarthInclude @Darth in your post and this person will
be notified via email.If you search this site for threads regarding normality of data as a requirement for using control charts, you might find that your assumption is in error. Control charts are designed to be rather robust to normality. If there is significant autocorrelation, you might try a time series analysis.
0February 7, 2006 at 4:12 pm #133508
Heebeegeebee BBParticipant@Heebeegeebee-BBInclude @Heebeegeebee-BB in your post and this person will
be notified via email.Here’s a pretty good link:
https://www.isixsigma.com/library/content/c020121d.asp0February 7, 2006 at 8:57 pm #133525Darth & Heebeegeebee BB,Thanks for your inputs.
Is it better to convert the data to normal to perform SPC? Are there certain SPC charts suited for Non normal data (apart from X bar R), like there are specific Non Parametric tools for statistical analysis of Non normal data?Also can anyone clearly define the difference between QA and QC for a process? I find a lot of definition for QA/QC on projects and IT but nothing valuable related to a process.Your feedback is much appreciated,
Thanks,
AN0February 7, 2006 at 9:39 pm #133528
Ken FeldmanParticipant@DarthInclude @Darth in your post and this person will
be notified via email.NO! Do not transform the data for use in a control chart. The control limits will now be in units of the transformed values and be meaningless to anybody reading it. To repeat, control charts are very robust to normality so stop worrying about it. The only one that might be somewhat challenged with severe non-normal data is the I/MR chart. The underlying distributions for the R chart and all attribute charts are not necessarily normal anyway.
0February 7, 2006 at 9:53 pm #133529Thanks Darth,That clarifies my point.AN
0February 16, 2006 at 3:42 pm #133901There is a great book “Normality and the Process Behavior Chart” by Dr Donald J. Wheeler that offers guidance for dealing with data and normality. With SPC charts it is not necessary to check for normailty. Good Luck!
0February 16, 2006 at 3:55 pm #133902* NonNormal Data:
Weibull will make the best-fit curve for NonNormal
Non Normal Data use Weibull. (Capability Chart)
Non Normal Data you cannot center
Normal Data you can center
Box-Cox Method =NonConforming / NonNormal = picks and runs best equation for your data. The Box-Cox transformation can be used for converting the data to a normal distribution, which then allows the process capability to be easily determined.
*Normal data Cap Studies gives you Cpk & Ppk.
*NonNormal data Cap Studies gives only Ppk.0February 22, 2006 at 12:20 pm #134104
R.M.ParkhiParticipant@R.M.ParkhiInclude @R.M.Parkhi in your post and this person will
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Best way will be to reduce variability by a DOE & then go for SPC.You may kindly refer to the book-‘ World Class Quality’ by Mr. Keki R.Bhote ( published by American Management Association ).Pl. study carefully the chapter on Multi- Vari analysis.
Pl. contact,in case of a doubt.
Regards,
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