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    H
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    Could anyone help me on this: can you just start an own cosulting business in six sigma lean? Or does your company needs to be certified? Is there any official body for qualifying your business as a lean six sigma provider?
    Thanks,
    H

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    #166378

    Six Sigma Shooter
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    Unfortunately, anyone can start a six sigma / lean consulting business.  No need for any certifications or even demonstrated knowledge or success.  Before starting your business, you may want to review the Institute of Management Consultants USA Code of Ethics (IMCUSA) and make sure you can adhere to the code, Principle 3.0 in this case:
    Principle 3.0 (Experience and Competence For Engagements) of the IMCUSA Code of Ethics reads: “I will only accept assignments for which I possess the requisite experience and competence to perform and will only assign staff or engage colleagues with the knowledge and expertise needed to serve my clients effectively.”
    Shooter

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    #166382

    Mikel
    Member

    Wow, too bad the principle is not law. 90% of the consultants would
    be gone.

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    #166384

    HF Chris
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    “Competence” and “Serve”, now those are interesting words. Does that mean I can’t just do what’s good for me? There goes my correspondence course fee.HF Chris

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    #166385

    Sloan
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    Attention ot detail is aslo importatn.

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    #166386

    Six Sigma Shooter
    Member

    Stan,
    Only 90%?  My gut tells me it would be more, but I have no data to back that up, just casual observations in the real world.  As Dr. D would say, beware of the hack consultant!
    Have a great Christmas and best wishes for a fantastic 2008.
    Shooter

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    #166388

    Mikel
    Member

    It’s the holidays, I am trying to be nice.

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    #166390

    HF Chris
    Participant

    I asked Santa for my Onw Consultant Business and he promised me I would get one this Christmas. The elves will be my green belts…the belts are already issued with red hats. Hope everyone is doing well, haven’t heard from Vinny since we talked about infusion pumps in 06. It is is nice to be home this season. Have a save end of the year,HF Chris

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    #166399

    BC
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    Just as the rest of us are getting stressed and cranky and mean for the holidays.

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    #166403

    Brandon
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    Isn’t it interesting that none of us believes anybody else is any good…we’re each the only ones who really know how to do this?

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    #166405

    Mikel
    Member

    I have data.

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    #166407

    Brandon
    Participant

    Really, Stan? It wouldn’t surprise me that you have data on your work. But do you really have data on the work of the other 100+ providers of SS training? And does all of it show they are incompetent idiots as portended in your posts?
    If so, I would have thought market forces, being as effective as they are, would have eliminated the others and you and the few others you have faith in would be ruling the world.

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    #166409

    Mikel
    Member

    You make a huge assumption that people like me or Mike Carnell are out there trying to be dominant.
    We both have been there and it was not much fun. We both run a business that gives us an income that is in the top 1% while being happy with what we are doing.
    Do you really think that what is going on with the US Gov’t or AT&T are competent implementations?

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    #166412

    Brandon
    Participant

    OK, Stan, I can understand your position on what you want to do with your time. I too departed one of the “top” providers….significantly because of the BS. I’ve found working with a small group that communicates well, agrees as to strategy then works TOGETHER to accomplish that strategy is much more rewarding…and I sleep better. Actually it’s better when I’m awake too.
    However, I still contend there are a lot of people around the world training and assisting in implementing effective LSS programs. I don’t need to call them idiots to be comfortable in what I do.

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    #166413

    Six Sigma Shooter
    Member

    1.  Those that think they know it all, don’t
    2.  Those that always question what they “know” and seek to learn, know more than they are willing to admit
    3.  Those that have an intolerance for the “stupid” questions, are more impressed with what they “know” than in educating others, and they most likely fall into #1 above.
    4.  Those that ask others to do the research for them, or that have an insatiable need for case studies, cookbook approaches and “instant pudding,  refuse to learn.
    5.  Those that write “undeniable truths” will draw the ire of those that most likely fall into #1.
    6.  Hacks have always been with us and they always will be.
    These are just a few.  Feel free to add to the list.
    Shooter

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    #166414

    Mikel
    Member

    Agreed.
    I don’t need to call them idiots either. But incompetent is incompetent, call it what you want.

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    #166417

    Mikel
    Member

    7. Those that post questions instead of doing a web search are lazy and unteachable.

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    #166418

    Six Sigma Shooter
    Member

    Stan,
    That was part of my thinking behind #4, but I think you’re right it making it a stand alone.  I am always intrigued by the fact that in the time it takes one to ask the question, they could have had the answer with a simple web search.  Maybe we should include “how to do your own research” in the GB, BB, MBB, Silver, Gold and Platinum Belt classes?  I’m not sure it should be part of the Pueter, Tin, Nickle or Bronze Belts, though.
    Shooter

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    #166419

    Six Sigma Shooter
    Member

    Beg my pardon and no offense meant – that should be Pewter Belt – not Pueter.  My apologies to all the PBs out there.
    Shooter

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    #166420

    Adam L Bowden
    Participant

    They will remain in the category of “conciously incompetent”

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    #166421

    Deanb
    Participant

    Interesting observation Brandon. I am also amazed how so many highly accomplished professionals in this field can render so many different and often opposing opinions to the most basic questions. The variations seem to increase the more statistical in nature the question is. Happy holidays to you and the gang.

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    #166422

    Alderman
    Participant

    8) the more people think they know, the more others realize they need to learn..
    9) Its one thing to be thought of an idiot then open your mouth and remove all doubt..
    Any others want to add.. there has to be more..

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    #166423

    Deanb
    Participant

    8. Those that practice in their own yard first tend to have more patience and respect for people and teamwork.

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    #166424

    HF Chris
    Participant

    10) It is far better to try and fail than to……darn, I failed again.

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    #166426

    Deanb
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    11. The more absolutely fixed and universal a method or theory is claimed to be, the more flexible and situational it really is.

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    #166429

    clb1
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    #3.14159   A picture is worth a thousand words – the minimum number of words needed to explain away the mess you made because you didn’t plot your data in the first place.

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