iSixSigma

TQM v. 6 Sigma

Six Sigma – iSixSigma Forums Old Forums General TQM v. 6 Sigma

Viewing 8 posts - 1 through 8 (of 8 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #41902

    Patrick
    Participant

    Mike e.t.c. e.t.c.
    I have just spent the last hr reading through 2 years of commentary about the differences betwee TQM & SS and thouroughly enjoyed the banter (Irish Term).
    What is the answer? what is the next bousy that is going to be tarted up and sold as new? when are people going to realise that it is people, culture, poor management, lack of direction…..or  lack of any sort of willingness to pull themselves (all western manufacturing) back from the brink of Shanghai.
    Everyone (obviously quite an exageration) goes with the latest trend and then abandons it.
    I know how to correct this downward spiral in day to day environments but cant do it on my own….why so few with the focus…its very simple….manage by objective and PDCA
    help…we are all doomed.  

    0
    #131936

    Darth
    Participant

    BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!!!  Without all the gullible senior managers, all the consultants would be out of work.  I agree that MBO along with 360 Degree surverys are a great way to manage to success.  I encourage you to continue to advocate those tools in your company since they, along with PDCA and NBFD, are all it takes.

    0
    #131937

    Andejrad Ich
    Participant

    Patrick,
    I was sitting in a meeting a month or so ago where I heard one of our Directors say, “I don’t understand why you would spend the time doing a DOE instead of just fixing the problem.”
    So…..I can only predict that all logical approaches to quality improvement and problem-solving will soon be replaced by a program to be known as BOAMIC (Blind Obedience to Arrogant Morons in Charge).  The emphasis of the program will be on selection and promotion of the uneducated who demonstrate strong conviction to their own opinions and an unabashed willingness to sound completely stupid in communicating those opinions to everyone around them. 
    Watch for it:  “BOAMIC” (in fact, it’s probably already gotten a foothold in your organization too).
    Andejrad

    0
    #131940

    Patrick
    Participant

    I will have to coin a phrase for it but “thinking outside the box” is a good one or “its all hands to the pumps” followed closely by lots of daily management meetings about where its going wrong, then the panic is over and evryone retreats to their offices.
    next month comes and guess what…same again. Dont you just love them
    P

    0
    #131945

    Andejrad Ich
    Participant

    Patrick,
    After reading your last, I was going to suggest “Battle Stations!” as a new program (short, sweet, catchy – and acronymed as “B.S.”), but “all hands to the pumps” does a better job of evoking  panic and chaos and mayhem and mismanagement while also including the sheer dread everyone would feel every time they heard it — then dragging themselves to their stations because they know they are being damned to yet another session of brutal, life-zapping, physical monotony — “c’mon boys, crank for your very lives until we’re out of the storm!” — (“c’mon boys, 4 day kaizen event in the learning center!”)
    Andejrad
     

    0
    #131988

    quality1
    Participant

    Hi Patrick !
    While I don’t denie that SS is a great tool, for some companies, and some people, the mistake is that we want or somebody wants to say that it can be and has to be applied for every aspect of the business.
    See some opinion here as well.
     http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=3823
    György

    0
    #132003

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Darth,
    Nice try but I am not going to bite on the consultant thing or the TQM thing or the 360 thing. I have had a nice 3 or 4 weeks of relaxation and have one more before we start getting back on the airplanes again.
    Hope you and Mrs. Darth had a great holidays.
    Now haul your butt out of the little ceder chip nest and get back in that wheel for another 50 weeks and you will have earned the right for some more time off. If you do it long enough you get a watch and sent home. To much time to think, I think.
    Regards

    0
    #132004

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Patrick,
    I am assuming that the Mike is me since I participated in so many of the TQM vs, Six Sigma cage matches in the past.
    If you have the answer in MBO and PDCA have a great time (just as an FYI nobody is implementing SS on their own either). No body will put you into business improvement jail for not doing six sigma.
    Just my opinion.
    Good luck

    0
Viewing 8 posts - 1 through 8 (of 8 total)

The forum ‘General’ is closed to new topics and replies.