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    Hosking
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    Are there any rules or guidelines to receiving a GB, BB, or master BB?  A colleague of mine has stated that a consulting group is offering all three belts in a week of training?  I do not know much about the rewarding of certifications, but this does not sound possible, in fact if it were this easy we would all be master black belts!
    I appreciate any help you can give me.
    Thanks

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    #85632

    Tex
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    If your colleague believes that, it is true that “there’s a sucker born every minute.” No, it is not possible.

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    #85633

    lin
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    Cripes! Where do I sign up for that? I had to go through 5 weeks of training for my BB. Just keep in mind, you get what you pay for…

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    #85634

    Lomax
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    Jill,
    That is simply not possible…GB training should be at least 2 weeks, require a successful, completed project, examination, and MBB review.  BB training should be at least 4 weeks, 2-3 successful projects, examination, and review by MBB.  MBB training varies but typically includes an additional two weeks beyond BB, plus 6-8 months of training delivery, coaching, and business exposure.
    Neil

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    #85635

    Anonymous
    Participant

    I’d like to know what Jill’s co-worker was smoking when he made that statement…

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    #85638

    walden
    Participant

    Laugh if you will. The Quality Manager from one of our satellite facilities called me this morning and asked if I heard about this training. He was contacted to see if he was interested in attending this same course.

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    #85641

    Annie
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    I am going through training, through Blackbelt.  One week a month, for four months, with 8 months to complete a project, where the DMAIC was actually implemented.  I’ve heard of people taking 3 day GreenBelt courses, but I don’t know how they did it, or what they could have possibly learned….  Black Belt starts tomorrow.
    You get a Training Certificate for completing the training, but you are certified only after completing a project.  You can further your training, by getting certified through ASQ, but you have to pass the exam.
    I don’t think most companies require you to complete more than one project to receive your certification, although to apply for the ASQ certification, you must have either completed 2 projects, or worked in the field for over 5 years, and completed one project. ( think!)
     

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    #85642

    Helper
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    That is a very scary notion!  Jill, I am sure you can see by the response how impossible it is for someone to recieve GB, BB, and MBB all in one week.   The standard/normal criteria and body of knowledge just does not lend itself to that.
     

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    #85681

    Heebeegeebee BB
    Participant

    Each Consultant has a different approach.   I would be extremely wary of anyone claiming to train across all 3 roles in one weeks time.   Receiving a training completion cert is one thing, but being able to successfully fill the role of a GB/BB/MBB after one week of training is career-suicide.
    Remember, in many organizations, BB’s and MBB’s are chosen for reasons far and beyond technical acumen…
    BB’s and MBB’s need to be formal/informal leaders, Change Management Coaches and masters of the soft-skillset.
    The ability to influence at all levels of an organization is 90% of what it means to be a BB/MBB.   This ability to influence is referred to by many as the “Jedi Mind Trick”.
    It’s not enough to be trained and “certified” by an external consultant.   You have to produce too!
     
    Remember, you get what you pay for.
    “Caveat Emptor”
    -Heebee
     

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