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  • #43878

    reg
    Participant

    I am looking to licence training materials for black belts for a small company.  Does any one know where I could licence these materials? 

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    #139802

    Mikel
    Member

    How much money are you willing to spend?

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    #139804

    Habib
    Participant

    Send me an email at [email protected].

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    #139807

    reg
    Participant

    Not sure what normal costs are for the training are?  I am going back to leadership with some quotes as the first pass.  What is common an typical???

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    #139865

    Orang_Utan
    Participant

    Mike J. Harry is selling a whole package of six sigma at less than USD 1000.

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    #139870

    Eugene Lanning
    Participant

    For the uninformed, Mike Harry is with what company and how would one contact him?

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    #139871

    Eugene Lanning
    Participant

    Found him.

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    #139872

    Ken Feldman
    Participant

    Don’t waste your money.  He has lost all integrity and is so hard up for money now he has to sell his soul and what little reputation he once had.
    Here is a quote from their material:
    Perhaps the coup de grace is that once ‘MindPro’ users complete the courses, they can become ‘Six Sigma’ certified by Dr. Harry’s own Six Sigma Management Institute, offering a wonderful credential to anyone trained in ‘Six Sigma’ principles.
    Why don’t you find out whether his certification requires a project as  any reputable certification should entail or do they throw the burden upon the student as an option.

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    #139877

    Orang_Utan
    Participant

    Your consulting company is more reputable than Mike J. Harry?? You are charging USD10,000 for a black belt public training sure feel the pain.
     

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    #139878

    Fontanilla
    Participant

    There are tons of training materials, mostly recycled crap from 10 years.
    Some materials emphasize stats.
    Some emphasize processes and transactions
    Some emphasize add on consulting services
    What types of problems are trying to solve and what kind of leadership commitment do you have. These will be factors in determining which materials to purchase.
    None of the materials guarantee results.

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    #139880

    Norma
    Participant

    I believe that before you shop for training materials you should develop a list outling the criteria for these materials.  In addition, you should ensure that the individual who will use the material to provide the training is a good instructor.  Without these two important points, then you could purchase a package based on price which may be of little value to you and your organization.

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    #139901

    reg
    Participant

    Dan,
    We are a transactional based comapany and have alot of data that is collected, but unfortunately not analyzed.

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    #139941

    Myburgh
    Participant

    Why do you consider this offering reputable? My understanding is that Mr. William Smith has been recognized as the Father of Six Sigma by Motorola. This man is claiming the same credit from a deceased person.
    I would seem more appropriate that the pain should be felt by the person committing the disrespect.

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    #140023

    Mikel
    Member

    It’s good to see that Mikel is starting to understand the value of his material, but US$1000 is still overpriced for anything from Mikel.

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    #140067

    GE90
    Participant

    It sounds as if you have had the Dr. Harry experience. Management get enamoured with the side show and the MBB’s have to clean up the mess. The interesting part is that he claims to have done so much at GE and I don’t know anyone who has ever seen him at a GE facility outside of Crotonville
    As a victim of Dr. Harry’s White and Green book it is a liberal interpretation of the term book. It is a collection of clip art. Nobody in our group every finished the white book or even started the black book. There is no dialogue that creates any type of logic or flow. It is fairly obvious that it was one of those Enron type things, “You must not be smart enough to understand what we are doing” After ten years the books are still worthless.
    We were then forced to endure the VHS tapes with the endless repeat of “I said to myself. Self” which obviously entertained Dr. Harry but was a less than professional presentation. There could not have been any preparation at all for the taping and there certainly wasn’t any editing.
    No we get the latest nonsense that has his lack of understanding of how to run Minitab documented in the material you have to purchase. That is correct they did not even edit out his incompetence.
    We can also deal with his clone Reigle, the official Mediator for the site, who has posted that he has never done a deployment from beginning to end. The comments are like speaking to a car salesman trying to guess whatever you want to hear today. After enough post on this discussion group it is obvious Reigle has never had an original thought of his own.
    Everyone breathed a sigh of relief when Dr. Harry disappeared for a few years and now we are in for guess what scam is behind door #2 or are we at door #3.
    Who asked about having better credentials? Anyone who has ever actually done a project carries better credentials than either Dr. Harry or is pet mediator.
    This to will pass.

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    #140143

    Marlon Brando
    Participant

    It is  a  good  price  for  such  ccomprehensive material.Just  consider  that  you  have  to  pay  at  least $2000 for  any  SS-GB Course  and  some  $3000 (at minimum) for  any  on-line  SS-BB.I’m  free lancer  and  have  purchased PPT (some  10  packages as  training  materials ,covering  TQM,SS,Lean-SS,DOE,FMEA,KBLM,SP,PM,ISO..and  several  other  quality  topics  and  quality  tools ) that  costed  me  some $1000.Later  that  materials has  motivated  me  (and  by  using  some  20  books that  I  have)I  started to  make  my  own  PPT,adding  value  through practical case-studies,etc.Now I’m  enjoying the  new  task,have  finished 6 PPT:Advanced TQM,SS,Lean-SS,kaizen  Management,Change  Management and Qualitheme (a  new  concept for TQM implementation in  SMEs).Have  tested  the  impact in  some  new  training  seminars  and  it  was  excellent.

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    #140151

    Mikel
    Member

    Sounds like you know Dr. Harry as well.
    Funny thing about Reigle is that Mikel has basically shunned him in the glory days and he still stays loyal like a a beaten lap dog.

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    #140220

    GE90
    Participant

    We know Dr. Harry to well. He is viewed as something safe for our management team. They sign up for whatever the latest hype is that he is selling and if anything goes wrong they can simply say this is the guy that did GE. If you talk to the Black Belts when they hear about the latest Dr. Harry hype they just wonder how long they have to do the latest dance before they are allowed to go back to doing Six Sigma. He seems to want to take credit for the GE success when it was the GE black Belts that made it a success. As I have stated previously I do not know a single Black Belt that has ever seen him in a GE facility.

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    #140223

    Lloyd Bernstein
    Participant

    I knew Mikel Harry.  Mikel Harry was a friend of mine.  And you’re no Mikel Harry.

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    #140226

    Mikel
    Member

    Mikel has no friends – it’s all about Mikel.
    You should worry if you did not know that.

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    #140229

    GE90
    Participant

    That is what it takes to be part of the Dr. Harry group. You have to treat him like a rock star of you are not part of the cool group. Very similar to High School children.

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    #140231

    GE90
    Participant

    I have no aspirations to be Dr. Harry. The unfortunate thing is Dr. Harry is also no Dr. Harry.
    If you read the 7 Habits of Highly Effective people and the discussion around the shift from the Character Ethic to the Personality Ethic, page 18, you will find that Dr. Harry epitomizes this. Style over substance.
    The reality of who delivered GE is not an academic argument. The GE Black Belts delivered the GE results for Jack Welch just as we did many other programs that were initiated under that management team. Dr. Harry was a noise factor and nothing more.

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    #140233

    Mikel
    Member

    Reg,
    If you really want help here, email me at [email protected].
    I’ll help you find affordable materials based on the financials of your company.

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    #140235

    Lloyd Bernstein
    Participant

    …okay…I’m no Lloyd Benson. 

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    #140257

    Orang_Utan
    Participant

    Bill Smith planted the six sigma seed, Mikel J Harry irrigated and grew it to a big tree.  The fact is Mikel did not claim he is the father of six sigma.
     
     

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    #140258

    Ken Feldman
    Participant

    I think Stan would say that Mikel fertilized SS rather than irrigated it.

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    #140259

    BTDT
    Participant

    GE90:The Monte Hall thread shows that if you are shown a goat behind door #1, then you should change your choice. There must be a witticism we can put together involving goats and the consulting group “bait and switch” scenario.Cheers, BTDT

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    #140273

    Tim
    Member

    Hey there GE90.  I really don’t personally know Dr. Harry but have heard a lot about him (mostly very positive).  Seems Jack Welch thought alot of Dr. Harry.  So much so that Welch selected SSA to be the consultancy of choice and cited Dr. Harry quite a bit in his autobiography and throughout GE Way book.  Seems Dupont thinks alot of him as well.  Why are these top executives aligned with him.
     
    Perhaps you, Darth and Stan could tell us the references within which you guys are cited by several top business leaders (like Jack Welch).  Could it be that you are intimidated by successful people and lash out at them because they achieved something you did not?  Sure seems so by reading your posts. 
     
    I would warmly recommend that you focus on presenting your own contributions to the field of six sigma rather than knocking the well recognized effors of others.

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    #140279

    Orang_Utan
    Participant

    These guys are resorting to unhealthy personal attack. Let focus on the subject, not the person. 

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    #140281

    sharma
    Participant

    mail me at [email protected] , ll provide u the customize one at value for money.

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    #140297

    Mikel
    Member

    Consultancy of choice – what does that mean? SSA was not used by GE beyond the instant MBB annoiting done by Mikel.
    I don’t know what you think cited quite a bit means, but you need to go read again. One or two references at most, one of them saying “we didn’t know if he was a madman”
    Find someone on the implementation side of GE or Allied or Dupont that even had contact with the guy – you won’t find them.
    By the way Reigle, welcome back, now go away.

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    #140298

    Mikel
    Member

    Dear Orang – you made it personal with your post – “Mike J. Harry is selling a whole package of six sigma at less than USD 1000”
    Mikel is selling a repackaging of the same nonsense he has always sold – people are just pointing that out.

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    #140300

    BTDT
    Participant

    Stan:Dupont paid $10,000,000. Maybe they should have waited for the DVD instead of going to the theatre.Cheers, BTDT

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    #140306

    mand
    Member

    Tim, Johnathan Swift said it best:
     
    “When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.”Johnathan Swift

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    #140310

    Tim
    Member

    Sam, so true!  Great Quote.

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    #140317

    Orang_Utan
    Participant

    You have right to point out so-called repackaged material. Your posts in some occasions close to personal attack on Mikel J Harry.
    I think USD800++ to get a whole set of repackaged material is still much cheaper than many repackaged online learning courses or public training courses.

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    #140320

    GomezAdams
    Participant

    Yup!
    He’s using the following logic…… 
     
    The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition.                            
    1) Once you have their money, never give it back.*
    2) You can’t cheat an honest customer, but it never hurts to try.
    3) Never buy anything for more than is absolutely necessary.*
    4) Sex and profit are the two things that never last long enough.
    5) If you can’t break a contract, bend it.
    6) Never let family stand in the way of opportunity.*
    7) Always keep your ears open.*
    8) Keep count of your change.
    9) Instinct plus opportunity equals profit.*
    10) A dead customer can’t buy as much as a live one.
    11) Latinum isn’t the only thing that shines.
    12) Anything worth selling is worth selling twice.
    13) Anything worth doing is worth doing for money.
    14) Anything stolen is pure profit.
    15) Acting stupid is often smart.
    16) A deal is a deal.*
    17) A contract is a contract is a contract, but only with a Ferengi.*
    17) A bargain usually isn’t.
    18) Beware of relatives bearing gifts.
    19) Don’t lie too soon after a promotion.
    20) When the customer is sweating, turn up the heat.
    21) Never place friendship before profit.*
    22) Wise men can hear profit in the wind.*
    23) Never take the last coin, but be sure to get all the rest.
    24) Never ask when you can take.
    25) Fear makes a good business partner.
    26) The vast majority of the rich in this galaxy did not inherit their wealth; they stole it.
    27) The most beautiful thing about a tree is what you do with it after you cut it down.
    28) Morality is always defined by those in power.
    29) When someone says “It’s not the money,” they’re lying.
    30) Talk is cheap; synthehol costs money.
    31) Never make fun of a Ferengi’s mother.*
    32) Be careful what you sell. It may do exactly what the customer expects.
    33) It never hurts to suck up to the boss.*
    34) Compassion is no substitute for profit.
    35) You could afford your ship without your government–if it weren’t for your government.
    36) Too many Ferengi can’t laugh at themselves anymore.
    37) You can always buy back a lost reputation.
    38) Free advertising is cheap.
    39) Praise is cheap. Heap it generously on all customers.
    40) If you see profit on a journey, take it.
    41) Money talks, but having lots of it gets more attention.
    42) Only negotiate when you are certain to profit.
    43) Caressing an ear is often more forceful than pointing a weapon.
    44) Never argue with a loaded phaser.
    45) Profit has limits. Loss has none.
    46) Labor camps are full of people who trusted the wrong person.
    47) Never trust a man wearing a better suit than your own.*
    48) The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife.*
    49) Old age and gree will always overcome youth and talent.
    50) Never bluff a Klingon.
    51) Never admit a mistake if they’re someone else to blame.
    52) Only Bugsy could have built Las Vegas.
    53) Sell first; ask questions later.
    54) Never buy anything you can’t sell.
    55) Always sell at the highest possible profit.
    56) Pursue profit; women come later.
    57) Good customers are a rare as latinum–treasure them.
    58) Friendship is seldom cheap.
    59) Free advice is seldom cheap.*
    60) Never use credit where your words will do.
    61) Never buy what can be stolen.
    62) The riskier the road, the higher the profit.*
    63) Power without profit is like a ship without an engine.
    64) Don’t talk shop; talk shopping.
    65) Don’t talk ship; talk shipping.
    66) Anyone serving in a fleet who is crazy can be relieved, if they ask for it.
    67) Anyone asking to be relieved is not crazy and must be forced to serve.
    69) Win or lose, there’s always Hyperian beetle snuff.
    70) Get the money first, then let the buyers worry about collecting the merchandise.
    75) Home is where the heart is … but the stars are made of latinum.
    76) Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies.*
    79) Beware of the Vulcan greed for knowledge.
    82)The flimsier the product, the higher the price.
    85) Never let the competition know what you’re thinking.
    89) Ask not what your profits can do for you, but what you can do for your profits.
    94) Females and finances don’t mix.
    97) Enough … is never enough.
    99) Trust is the biggest liability of all.
    101) Never do something you can make someone do for you.
    102) Nature decays, but latinum lasts forever.*
    103) Sleep can interfere with opportunity.*
    104) Money is never made. It is merely won or lost.
    105) Faith moves mountains … of inventory.
    106) There is no honor in poverty.
    109) Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack.*
    111) Never sleep with the boss’ wife unless you pay him first.
    112) Never sleep with the boss’ sister.
    113) Always have sex with the boss.
    117) You can’t free a fish from water.
    121) Everything is for sale, even friendship.
    119) Buy, sell, or get out of the way.
    123) A friend is only a friend until you sell him something. Then he is a customer.
    124) Even a blind man can recognize the glow of latinum.
    138) Law makes everyone equal, but justice goes to the highest bidder.
    139) Wives serve; brothers inherit.*
    141) Only fools pay retail.
    144) There’s nothing wrong with charity … as long as it winds up in your pocket.
    148) Opportunity waits for no one.
    162) Even in the worst of times someone turns a profit.
    164) Never spend your own money when you can spend someone else’s.
    172) If you can sell it, don’t hesitate to steal it.
    177) Know your enemies … but do business with them always.
    180) Never offer a confession when a bribe will do.
    181) Not even dishonesty can tarnish the shine of profit.
    187) Let others keep their reputation. You keep their money.
    188) Never bet on a race you haven’t fixed.
    189) Borrow on a handshake; lend in writing.
    190) Hear all, trust nothing.*
    192) Never cheat a Klingon … unless you’re sure you can get away with it.
    194) It’s always good business to know about new customers before they walk in your door.
    202) A friend in need is a customer in the making.
    203.New customers are like razortoothed grubworms. They can be succulent, but sometimes they can bite back.
    208) Give someone a fish, you feed him for one day. Teach him how to fish, and you lose a steady customer.
    211) Employees are rungs on the ladder of success. Don’t hesitate to step on them.
    214) Never begin a business transaction on an empty stomach.*
    215) Instinct without opportunity is useless.
    218) Always know what you’re buying.
    221) Beware of any man who thinks with his lobes.
    222) Knowledge is power.
    223) Beware the man who doesn’t make time for 00-mox.
    236) You can’t buy fate.
    239) Never be afraid to mislable a product.*
    242) More is good … all is better.
    255) A wife is a luxury … a smart accountant is a necessity.
    261) A wealthy man can afford anthing except a conscience.
    263) Never allow doubt to tarnish your love of latinum.
    266) When in doubt, lie.
    281) Blood is thicker than water, but harder to sell.
    282) Business is like war; it’s important to recognize the winner.
    283) Rules are always subject to change.
    284) Rules are always subject to interpretation.
    284) Deep down everyone’s a Ferengi.
    285) No good deed ever goes unpunished.*
    286) [Quark’s rule] When Morn leaves, it’s all over.
    * Rules which have been quoted on Deep Space Nine.
     
     

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    #140327

    Motorola SSBB
    Participant

    Why don’t you read this post and find more claims about Six Sigma.https://www.isixsigma.com/forum/showmessage.asp?messageID=43982

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    #140329

    Hans
    Participant

    Thanks for sharing this information and this link!!!

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    #140332

    Darth aka Darth
    Participant

    Somebody had some free time today :-).  Great rules to live by, thanks Gomez.

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    #140336

    Marlon Brando
    Participant

    I  have  prepared my  own training  materials (ppt),covering  6 topics:SS,TQM,Lean-SS,Kaizen Management,Change  Management and Qualitheme (TQM for SMEs).Some 500 Slides,with  several  practical  case-studies..etc,used  some  20  references (Books,Articles,Links…).So  I  don’t  need  to  purchase any  new  expensive  training  materials ??I’m  using  those materials  in  my  own  training seminars. 

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    #140367

    annon
    Participant

    The same tactics used by Ken Lay and the Enron Gang “If you tell the emperor he has no cloths then you aren’t smart enough to understand.” There seems to be to many detractors that are all telling the same story. If you like the sayings try this one “Where there is smoke there is fire.” Harry and smoke seem to costar to frequently.

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    #140368

    annon
    Participant

    What an interesting posting. It looks like it is more than the GE Black Belts that take issue with Harry taking credit for someone elses work.

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    #140386

    yfx
    Member

    Hello REG,
     
    In my opinion: training materials are one piece of the six sigma puzzle.  Multi executive support, strategic alignment, multi-generational planning, governance, candidate selection, resource allocation, performance management, project tracking, monthly project review meetings and communication are equally as important as the act of training.  In short, training without infrastructure is in efficient. 
     
    Once your resources are trained, what will they do?  Will your leadership team state, “you’re a smart guy or gal, go figure out how to use this six sigma thing”.  Do not be lured into the trap of training resources and throwing them into the fire without having the support they will need to be successful.  What happens after class is just as important as what happens during class. 
     
    As for training materials, they usually come in a few flavors: theoretical but not technical, technical with no context of how to apply and not even close to being effective.  Since most materials cater to manufacturing sectors, service based employees some times struggle with applying the concepts.  Be sure the training program you select is well balanced containing a compliment of technical tools and leadership skills.  Any sections on tool usage should clearly illustrate how the tool will help solve a business problem.  Then, should illustrate how to convey the results to the executive team in a language they understand such as ROI, market share, customer satisfaction or competitive advantage.
     
    Good luck

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    #140388

    Mikel
    Member

    Reigle, back to your old tricks of posting and then answering your own post?

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    #159718

    The New MB
    Member

    Do you  want  to  share (for  free)??

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    #159735

    Brandon
    Participant

    Is $100 close enough to free?
    Check out the iSixSigma Markerplace – OSSS Black Belt.

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    #159833

    The New MB
    Member

    aGREE

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    #159837

    Trev
    Member
    #159846

    The New MB
    Member

    Pure Envy

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    #159848

    The New MB
    Member

    Are  you  still alive?

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    #159849

    The New MB
    Member

    Well  Said

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