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    Brandon
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    There is a difference between training and education.
    Training, unlike education, requires coaching, mentoring, performance consulting and “learn-by-doing” activities.
    Simply put, the difference between education and training is like the difference between taking a music appreciation course and spending years learning how to play a musical instrument. Many of today’s “training courses” — whether in e-learning form, instructor-led or a mixture of instructional methodologies — are not really training courses. They are lecture and reading programs. The development process will always have disastrous results if the role of behavioral learning is neglected. Training requires drill, repetition, and constant feedback. Most good teachers/lecturers are brilliant synthesizers who are capable of organizing a complex subject into a meaningful pattern. They’re also capable of engrossing their audience with dramatic wit and sparkling examples. The lecture method is a valid technique in the hands of skilled practitioners. But the lecture method is at best only a
    preparation for learning and is not learning itself. In too many instances the information goes from the instructor’s mouth into the employee’s notebook without going into his/her head. Similarly, reading is not the same thing as doing. Action learning, today’s newest term for training, rests on the old Chinese proverb: “I hear and I forget; I see and I remember; I do
    and I understand.” Training requires doing. Yet there is “watch out” associated with learning from practical experience or just doing. If practicing a craft with 30 years of professional experience essentially involves doing the same thing over and over, it probably means that the person has never gone beyond the behavioral dimension of learning. There is a difference between 30 years experience and one year’s experience 30 times. Learning theorists have a fancy term for the component of learning that spurs learning to a higher level. It’s called “cognitive learning.” Cognitive learning supplies the role of vision in the development process. In effect, it incorporates insights into behavioral practice, thereby distinguishing the master professional from the pedestrian performer. The key point: many so-called training programs are really education programs.

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    #197868

    Robert Butler
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    Ok, it’s kind of slow at the moment so I’ll play along. Every education course I’ve taken had homework. The homework required effort (learn-by-doing), and it was graded and discussed (coaching, mentoring, performance consulting, feedback, etc.). I would say your distinction between education and training is artificial. An education is training and training is an education.

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    #197869

    Chris Seider
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    Training versus education is like speaking versus motivating.

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    #197879

    D. Renner
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    In one of my former position I was responsible for train the people in diversity. But we didn’t called the position trainer, we called it facilitator. The idea behind this was quite simple. Get people involved into the topic, let them experience the material. Presenting hours of presentations is not training, it is boring :) Even if it is hard with some groups, but getting the crowd to participate is perhaps the best way of transporting the stuff. Starting with some ice breakers and then move on to group exercises. People won’t even recognize that they learn because they really experience it.

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    #197888

    Mike Carnell
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    @DRenner You have two really smart people in @cseider and @rbutler trying to figure out what you want or what your point is because I read it the same as they do – you want to make an issue out of something that isn’t an issue except to maybe you. The SS training was designed using the adult learning model called Bloom’s Taxonomy. It combines classroom and application. For us the people we put in the classroom are facilitators and the site support is mentoring. Based on that I don’t get your point. The people who hire us are paying for a result and they don’t really care what we call it or how we do it as long as it isn’t illegal or immoral.

    @cseider has referred to me as “harsh” in the past (we worked together) so here goes and it may be harsh. Your point is esoteric at best. It changes nothing regardless of the outcome. So what is it you want to accomplish with this discussion?

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    #197889

    Mike Carnell
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    @DRenner that last post was supposed to be to @Brandonct3. My apologies.

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    #197893

    Chris Seider
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    @mike-carnell Thanks for all the past time and let’s raise a Squirt and Captain Jack for the future.

    I have gotten less harsh myself and choosing more eloquent words. :)

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    #197894

    Mike Carnell
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    @cseider Boat drinks are always a good option and Squirt and Captain are my favorite. You have never been that harsh and when you were it was always in a very kind way.

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    #197902

    cfb
    Guest

    Perhaps ability vs knowledge is a better set of terms for this context – although frankly, I couldn’t really discern it from the original post….certification often applies to the latter, while successful delivery is a function of the former….The only time these semantics are useful is when value is misplaced in knowledge transfer and not its actual application with desired effect.

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    #198300

    Norbert Feher
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    I agree.

    I think the most important is to find a good mentor.
    A Six Sigma Black Belt for a Green Belt or a Master Black Belt for a Black Belt

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    #198303

    Amit Kumar Ojha
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    I think the basic difference between education and training is in terms of the objective and the way they are done. The fundamental purpose of education is learning and growth whereas that of training is improving the performance of the trainee through teaching him / her the skills required to perform a job perfectly.
    Education encompasses training, teaching, skill building as well as learning by experience.
    Hence eduction can be considered as a superset which encompasses training as one of the way of enhancing skills in a particular job.

    Also training particulary focusses on practical application whereas eduction also involves teaching the theory in addition to its application.

    Philosophically it can be said that education goes much beyond skill building or accumulation of knwoledge. Purpose of eduction is Enlightenment where in apart from knowledge and skills it also involves awareness about one’s duties and responsibilities towards soceity.

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