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    Mike Carnell
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    Innovation explained:

    It appears to be relatively new.

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    #192651

    MBBinWI
    Participant

    @Mike-Carnell – Made me want to innovate a comb.

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    #192653

    Michael Cyger
    Keymaster

    Nice one, Carnell. You found a nugget.

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    #192656

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    @michaelcyger Even blind squirrels …….. This guy is interesting. You need to do your video thing with him for that Innovation website. Pump some new blood into the innovation arena. I know a person who everytime you start with the tough questions they just insert “sum of squares” into every sentence until your eyes roll back in your head and you fall on the floor with an aneurysm. Basically what the innovation people do with TRIZ.

    @MBBinWI A comb? That does not bring back memories of Jerry Garcia? Gotta remember your roots. Actually maybe the 60’s were before your roots. As they say “If you can remember the 60’s you did not live the 60’s.”

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    #192657

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    @michaelcyger Here you go. The guy is correct on some level:

    http://www.kmu.admin.ch/themen/01254/01260/01271/index.html?lang=en

    Actually according to this innovation was introduced in 1911. Altshuller introduced TRIZ in 1946. How did we survive for 35 years without it? Suboptimized innovation.

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    #192658

    MBBinWI
    Participant

    @Mike-Carnell – I made it out of the sixties still in single digits.

    Innovation is looking at a “problem” from a different perspective with that alternate view providing a non-traditional answer. I realize you’re not a big TRIZ fan, but Altshuller and subsequent practitioners have categorized many common conflicting objectives and the nearly universal approaches to overcoming these conflicts. This is not in itself innovative, rather the ability to take a framework and utilize creativity to use non-traditional approaches to bring about the recommended solution, is where the truly innovative excel. Providing this framework merely ushers the creative along on their path that much faster.

    That said, I would say that there are very clear progressions for evolutions of products/services that organizations can leverage. The first generation is always about functionality, next comes usability, then reliability, and last cost. Likewise designs move from monolith, to multi-segment, to totally flexible, to force field. There are several other models of evolution. Knowing these patterns allows creativity to be applied to the right “problem” and stay ahead of competitive pressures by anticipating instead of reacting.

    Just my humble opinion.

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    #192659

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    @MBBinWI “Innovation is looking at a “problem” from a different perspective with that alternate view providing a non-traditional answer.” sounds a lot like thinking out of the box and this guy addresses that.

    You need to remember that Altshuller was also a science fiction writer.

    One of these days we will have to spend some time – you with the Scotch and me with some rum – and we can work through trying to think outside the box to be creative and you are going to do that by putting me inside the box of everything that has been “innovated” up to this point. It is counter intuitive.

    Where I have seen people at their creative best is when they are: 1. As Gary Cone has stated and you did as well – creative people to begin with and 2. separate fact from fiction with data so that they have understanding at a level that is not anecdotal.

    Do we really have to go back to that “humble” opinion thing again?

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    #192660

    MBBinWI
    Participant

    @Mike-Carnell – It’s not just “out of the box” – any schizo can do that, rather, looking at the box from a different angle.

    Any offer of scotch (Glenfiddich prefered) is always appreciated.

    Humble always in deference to my elders.

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    #192665

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    @MBBinWI That sounds a lot like picking fly feces out of pepper. That could be an interesting experiment trying innovation with people with schizophrenia (that is a serious comment). Dr. Temple Grandin writes some great books on livestock handling equipment and she has high funtioning autism (I probably did say that correctly). Maybe being different is the key.

    I worked with a person (one of my very favorite people in this world) who has Aspergers Syndrome (high functioning autistic). It was a tough go for both of us. You have to teach/facilitate on their terms otherwise it is a waste of time for both of you. One of the most rewarding things I have ever done outside my family. This guy is fantastic (and certified). Once he gets focused you can’t stop him.

    I’ll bring you a bottle in August.

    Deference – are you trying to keep up with Robert? Not sure about who are refering to as an elder.

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    #192670

    Gary Cone
    Participant

    @Mike-Carnell @MBBinWI Can I join your esoteric drinking session? We’ll video it.

    We’ll put it up for bid between iSixSigma, YouTube, and Hulu. Whoever we have to pay the least to is where we’ll put it.

    FYI – Upgrading Lighting, Camera, and mike. I was shamed by Cyger’s technical superiority. I figured my 2 1/2 year old MacBook Air could smoke anything Cyger had. Unfortunately I was wrong.

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    #192671

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    @garyacone @MBBinWI @MichaelCyger He has a Pong game and he smoked your Apple toy of the month club?

    Sure you can join. That was why I was going to bring him the bottle in August. I figured we’d be at your house! I am hoping he drinks enough to stop that humble stuff.

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    #192672

    Gary Cone
    Participant

    @Mike-Carnell @Mike-Cyger Yea, it’s embarassing to be smoked by one of those NW territory garage band types.

    I am serious about the video, study “It Might Get Loud”, I think they have the formula for us.

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    #192673

    MBBinWI
    Participant

    @Mike-Carnell – You’d be surprised at how humble I can be after a few.

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    #192681

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    @MBBinWI I give up on the humble stuff. In August (assuming you show up this year) if you start sucking on your bottom lip after a few drinks we are sticking a nipple on the Glenfiddich and dropping you in the guest house.

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