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    donald yuen
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    Dear isixsigma.com and all Last week While I was in Hong Kong I got an offer as a Production Planner or Production Engineer at AVNET.com(HONG KONG Branch) which locateed in Hong Kong. However, will the American’s company accept my experience like 1-2 years from now if I return to Tucson, Arizona? AVNET’s Headquarter is located in Phoenix. Hopefully I’ll get internal transfer, if not, at least good enough to apply other companies in US from my overseas experience.  My worries are what if the US won’t be interested/accept the ‘Job Nature’ at Avnet(hong kong) neither production engineer or production planner. In that case, I’ll be wasted my time in Hong Kong and won’t able to use my 2 experiences and to advance my career in America?Due to my famaily issue I will probably need to stay in Hong Kong for a year or 2, I recently graduated from the University of Arizona with a Bachalor in Science of Engineering Management (Six sigma), minors in Industrial Engineering & Mandarin. Could you give me some advice about my career path please? *The AutoMachines are shipped from US and the US uses the same model & programs we do.*The Production line steps: Starting from Login>Programming>Electrial  Inspection>Tape&Reel>Packing>Outgoing*I am US citizen.*SAP uses for operator, planner and engineer*My background lags in the technical skill.
    Please help and kindly advice on my career path. http://www.avnet.com I look forward to hearing from you about the career path in US. Pleae let me know if I could provide you with additional information. Thank you again. Best Regards and thanks,Donald [email protected]

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    #168269

    Mike Carnell
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    donald,
    I am going to make an assumption that since you just graduated from university that you are still pretty young (you may not see it that way). If you are I don’t understand your concern. International experience is generally a plus if not on the job at least in your personal life. Regardless if you are still that young who cares if they value it. If they don’t go somewhere where they do. That ethnocentric crap doesn’t play anymore. This is a global economy and it is a kick a_s time getting involved in it.
    You are working, gaining experience and getting involved. Two years is a long time. Any guarantee you get from anyone now isn’t worth the paper it is written on two years from now.
    Hong Kong is a pretty cool place. You can learn a lot. I would go for it. Besides look how close you are to China. There is some great stuff to see there.
    Good luck
    BTW if you want to worry about something worry about that U of A diploma. They will probably want to know why you didn’t go to ASU.

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    #168295

    Heebeegeebee BB
    Participant

    ‘Cause ASU Sucks!
    :-)
    BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!

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    #168301

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Excuse me! That is my almost matters or something like that.

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    #168311

    Chris Seider
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    ASU must be bad if they lose to the University of Washington Huskies men’s basketball team.

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    #168312

    Mike Carnell
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    …….and where did Barry Bonds and Reggie Jackson play?

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    #168317

    BC
    Participant

    It would be an interesting matchup…Reggie Jackson and Barry Bonds against the UWash men’s basketball team.  What sport was it?

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    #168322

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    I think Reggie Jackson may be a little old to take on a college level basketball team. In his day I would still have put money on him.
    Barry bonds is still in his prime. He could give them a run for their money.

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    #168336

    Taylor
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    Donald
    Many US companies offer Interns for someone such as yourself, Tyco (Not the toy maker) is one such company. Many different fields to chose from (Heathcare, mfg, automotive, etc). Do some searching on google and see what you come up with.
    As for EM and IE degree, one is an oxy moron and the other is imaginery. Since everyone else has been picking on you.

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    #168352

    donald yuen
    Participant

    Thanks for your input guys, I am just worry if I start out as a Production Planner then what am I going to become in the future? Like senior production planner, production manager, and so on…?
     
    If I really start out as a planner right now without any engineer skills, how is my career path would lead to?
     

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    #168353

    donald yuen
    Participant

    Right now my first job as a production planner & without engineer experience, I cannot forecast the exact position or who am I going to be in the future with my Degree in EM & IE. But I want to start my career path correctly without wasting time. Please give advice

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    #168354

    Chris Seider
    Participant

    Donald,
    Keep in mind two things for your career. 
     
    1st, keep in mind where you want to go and see if your opportunity aligns with that final destination.
     
    2nd, do what you enjoy.  No matter what the compensation or benefits it is not worth it to be doing what you don’t enjoy.
    I advise you to stop worrying so early in your career.
     

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    #168355

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Donald,
    I don’t want to be the first to break the news to you but you will in all probability not get a job straight out of college as a CEO or C anything for that matter.
    You need to stop worrying about where you are going to end up. The behavior you are exhibiting right (risk averse) now is going to be more of an issue in your carreer than anything else. Go on man, go to Hong Kong. Scare the crap out of yourself and you may actually find living a little closer to the edge is a better quality of life.
    Good luck

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    #168357

    OldestBB
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    You can not plan that far ahead.  “Life is what happens when you are planning something else”
    Some of the jobs available now did not exist when I graduated 40 years ago – like BlackBelt for example.  (And some that did are no longer around)
    Your best move for the long term is to get broad experience at this time.  If you want to C-something, get experience in technical depts, sales/marketing, and anything else.
    And, most important, as others have said – enjoy it!

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    #168375

    Heebeegeebee BB
    Participant

    I know you are!   I’m a Wildcat.
    On the road this week.   Hope you are well.
    ;-)

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    #168383

    Tim
    Member

    you may want to consider steroids to enhance your skills, just like Barry.

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    #168384

    Dick Booton
    Participant

    Don,I am an executive recruiter specializing in Lean and Six Sigma.  I would suggest the more experience you can get in Lean and Six Sigma, completeing projects, helping lead a deployment etc. will go further for your career, than the specific next position.  Please feel free to contact me directly to discuss further offline.Dick Booton602-652-8612

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    #168400

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    “I’m a Wildcat.” Isn’t that a line from Sandra Bullock in Two Weeks Notice? It just may make sense than being a Sun Devil.
    All is well. On the road for a while but some time off in Mozambique next week end.
    Travel safe.

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    #168414

    donald yuen
    Participant

    Thank you so much everyone, you guys been very helpful! Right now I will n’joy my work, then to try to get into project, lean or six sigma to see rather if I am interested in those type of work.
    *Since I am a fresh graduated should I worry if my first job as a production planner(less technical) because I won’t be learning any technical machines or technical skills for a while? does that effect my career path?

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    #168416

    Brandon
    Participant

    Donald, the answer is “no” it won’t be detrimental to your career path. The primary skill you need to focus on now is learning to work with and around people. You will gain technical knowledge in many environments…the rubber meets the road in your ability to accomplish things through and with co-workers.
    Pay attention to how things get done and how they do not get done. It is very much a people-thing right now…actually it always is.
    Best wishes.

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    #168417

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    This guy does not need to be a juicer. He needs some testosterone.
    Barry is alum. We are sure it was growth hormones. 

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    #168510

    donald yuen
    Participant

    Thanks for your replied. If you guys believe I will not waste my time then I will go for this oppuntunity as a production planner. My ideal path is to come back to the US later on, just because right now is not a good timing due to family issue. *Graudated in May, 2007
    In the mean time, I suppose should look into Lean, project and six sigma related area? Could somebody tell me how’s the path like in six sigma?
    Thanks for all the professional advice! Real appreciated. Please free feel to give in your thoughts.

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    #168517

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Donald,
    There is no way this is going to sound right or kind but it is my opinion.
    You posts suggest you are risk averse. Being risk averse in a discipline that requires driving change and relatively quick decision making ina an ambiguous environment risk aversion is probably going to make you miserable in the SS or Lean or any other change related environment.
    Get someone to run your Predictive Index profile. They can probably give you a pretty accurate picture of your fit. I think Gary Cone at GPS consultancy can do that for you or else one of his guys in Brazil should be able to do it.
    Just my opinion.

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    #168559

    donald yuen
    Participant

    Mike,
    To continue my career in US will be a risk that I already knew. It is because at this moment I need to be away from the state for while, and my situation cannot be solve in any formula or equation but luck enough I have found this forum with kinds and professional people who could give me some rewarding advice, about the chance of getting a job for me in the future when i return, like I always been concerned about how much ‘risk’ would you guys think this will be?
    regards and Thanks
    Donald

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    #168560

    donald yuen
    Participant

    Mike,
    To continue my career in US will be a risk that I already knew. It is because at this moment I need to be away from the state for while, and my situation cannot be solve in any formula or equation but luck enough I have found this forum with kinds and professional people who could give me some rewarding advice, about the chance of getting a job for me in the future when i return, like I always been concerned about how much ‘risk’ would you guys think this will be?
    regards and Thanks
    Donald

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