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    sammytexas
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    Our company has been doing six sigma for about four years and although it may work for some it is a HUGE waste of money in my opinion. One example was a project to reduce phone phone bills, after countless hours and dollars the resolution was 1) when possible use the internet or phonebook to search for numbers instead of 411, and 2) use the office phone instead of cell when in the office. They actually had months of meetings on this. One idea I assumed would be on the list for sure was to cxl the service on the 10-15 cell phones we have in our office alone that are not being used. But….. that didn’t make it on to the “to do” list.

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    #146271

    Schuette
    Participant

    Wonderful to see someone being honest. 
    I’m sure this is the tip of the iceberg – and the Titanic is sinking !

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    #146275

    Saumya
    Member

    Hi Sammy,
    Jim recommended you to tell me about 6 Sigma, I am new to this so…

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    #146279

    sammytexas
    Member

    Hey Saumya,
    I just posted back to your thread. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks

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    #146280

    Marlon Brando
    Participant

    Before selecting  a  SS  Project  ,you  should  decide is  it  worth  to  invest efforts  and  money.SS shouldn’t  be  used  for  any  “silly” assignment that  could  be  solved directly  with minimum  efforts  and  money.just  my  opinion. 

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    #146282

    sammytexas
    Member

    I agree 100%, I’m sure there are industries and projects that get the results expected. To me it seems like we are constantly looking for a new project instead of letting a need develop into a project.

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    #146329

    Dale
    Participant

    I think this is a phase all SS programs go through.  Bank of America had the same issue (and may still for all I know).  In the area I was in we tried to shift the projects to real SS ones, but the whole SS program got reorganized/redefined before we could get/see results.
    I really think SS is a valuable program, but it gets messed up when you mix the goal focused management process. And I think the new fad of Lean SS will go through the same problem.
    My question to the forum is how did your organization get to the next phase?

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    #146330

    Brit
    Participant

    I agree with Marlon. Sorry your experience has been tainted.  Sounds like you may have a process management issue with aligning projects to your strategic goals.  I’m sure saving/finding cash is a strategic goal, but whoever picked the phone thing was just silly.  Good luck and hope you continue the methodology with better results.

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    #146332

    Monk
    Participant

    A common exampel observed is solving the problem and then projecting in DMAIC way. By doing this the dept. heads feel that they will please the top management, that they are using six-sigma tools.
    If the top management is not smart enough, in that case the whole six-sigma intitive becomes a complete waste, as evryone fels that it is just a ‘showcase’.
    Monk

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    #146353

    Schuette
    Participant

    Rather than just winge, why not take legal action ?
    You have been conned by experts. You’d have no trouble with a class action.

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    #146448

    Ang
    Participant

    There is now widespead acceptance that six sigma has been padded with a great deal of statistical nonsense. The nonsense comes from two men – Mikel Harry and Rigel Stewart.
    With the increasing number of six sigma failures, such as that of SammyTexas, it is time that six sigma was purged of Harry’s and Stewart’s nonsense.  For example, why does every introduction to six sigma for beginners still include 3.4 DPMO ?  Promoting nonsensical numbers such as 3.4 DPMO not only diverts attention to the calculation of useless numbers, but can only bring six sigma into disrepute.
    If six sigma is to survive, it needs to clean up its act.
     
     

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    #146449

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Dale,
    One of the initial problems when you begin a deployment is the projects you select (not you as a person but people in general). People are directed to find Six Sigma projects. If you don’t know what Six Sigma is then how can you select a project? They also get caught up in the “select easy projects for quick wins” which is crap. Do something worth the effort.
    There is not this pool of stuff that has needed to get done for years and nobody knew how to do it so they have been waiting for an initiative to roll in so they could work on it. Virtually every department has a project that is a bottleneck, creates waste/scrap, etc that people will work on or have worked on and just have not figured it out or there are multiple people working on it part time and nobody has had the time to just focus and get it done. Those are good projects and forget the easy part – the solutiion will be there.
    The transition you are speaking about is getting the organization to accept the methodology. That comes from doing work that Process Owners need done no doing flashy, simple, sissy s__t. You want a pull system in place where the organization is pulling the BB’s as resources not BB’s shoving projects at Process Owners. That only comes from delivering value. Not window dressing value – real value and that does not mean exclusively cost reductions. There is a throughput/revenue side of this thing that will have a huge positive effect and open up an entirely different perception of what a project is.
    Look at all the post about GE walking away from Six Sigma. It is more of an issue of Six Sigma becoming just the way people do business. Everytime you select a project it doesn’t need to rival the coronation of Miss America. As it becomes part of the culture it just blends in – that is how you can tell it is part of the culture. The team celebration at the end does have value so that part needs to stay in tact but that needs to be for team efforts not a Six Sigma Block Party.
    Check out the second issue of iSixSigma Magazine (I think) that was the one dedicated to project selection or at leastone of them was.
    Just my opinion.
    Good luck

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    #146462

    pancholi
    Participant

    Hey Sammy
    I thnk u ve gt som realy bad experiences with SS.
    What I feel is that SS should be applied at right time and to solve big problems taht cant b solved by any other simple approach.Also, applying SS is a team work. If few of the team members are lagging behind then SS might go in vain.
    So, what I wish to say is that SS is not a waste of money if applied properly
     

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    #146465

    Marlon Brando
    Participant

    wHAT  DO  YOU  SUGGEST??

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