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    Xu Yan
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    What is shaining DOE? How can I get the book to introduce shaining DOE?
     
    Thanks,

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    #177203

    Mikel
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    World Class Quality by Keki BhoteHardcover: 512 pages
    Publisher: AMACOM; 2 Sub edition (January 4, 2000)
    Language: English
    ISBN-10: 0814404278
    ISBN-13: 978-081440Everything you ever wanted to know about Shainin without joining the
    cult.

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    #177213

    Michael Mead
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    I saw training material in English at a General
    Motors plant in Thailand. If you know anyone from
    GM, maybe they can get it for you.

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    #177231

    Robert Butler
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      The post below is a summary of similarities and differences between the methods.  The link to the cited article is now broken but when I wrote the post I tried to include enough detail so that the post would provide information whether the link worked or not.
    https://www.isixsigma.com/forum/showmessage.asp?messageID=63748
     

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    #177249

    BTDT
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    Xu Yan:Stan is right, the “World Class Quality” book by Keki Bhote and Adi Bhote is the only reference I have ever found.”Shainin DOE” is not a different DOE technique, but an extended 10 step problem solving approach where DOE is only a part. The process includes a number of the more familiar Six Sigma tools such as control charting and multi-vari charts to help narrow the search for variables and to verify results. The DOE and Response Surface Method sections of the analysis are nothing beyond the original statistical formulation.
    The book tends to downplay any other approach to problem solving and can sound a lot like a sales pitch. Good experimental design is tedious, but extremely powerful. There is no easy step-by-step recipe where all calculations can be done in your headPlease augment your purchase with a good book on DOE and experimental design. I would suggest working through Douglas Montgomery’s book, “Design and Analysis of Experiments, 5th Edition”.Cheers, Alastair

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    #177261

    Ron
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    the Shainin techniques are 70’s technology don’t waste your effort there.
     

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    #177267

    BTDT
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    Ron:I have to agree, the book was a waste and annoying to read. It always felt like old fish in new paper.The longer post by Robert Butler shows a similar sentiment near the end, and I appreciate the time he took to make a critical evaluation.Shaining Time StationCheers, Alastair

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    #177272

    Gary Cone
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    Not to be picky, but they are 50’s technology.They are outdated because they were a simplification of tedious
    calculations that are no longer an issue with PC based software.The ideas of segmenting a problem (multi-vari), of having a
    graphical way of displaying measurement error (Iso-Plot), of
    having a graphical way of seeing a realistic tolerance (realistic
    tolerancing or tolerance parallelogram), or having a logical
    troubleshooting roadmap (component or variable search) … are not
    outdated and are worth learning. You just don’t need the simplified computations and you don’t
    need to speak the language that goes with Shainin training.Full disclosure – I have met and was trained by Dorian Shainin and I
    respect his contribution and who he was. Go read about him, he
    was a good man.http://www.asq.org/about-asq/who-we-are/bio_shainin.html

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