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    Brian Thomas
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    Hi,I am considering taking green or black belt SixSigman training. Will it improve my chances of being more viable to future and current employers?I have read alot on SixSigma and it interests me very much.Regards,
    Brian Thomas

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    #80188

    RT
    Member

    Brian, If you get training/certification from a reputable source it would show any potential employer that you have met some standard criteia for proving your SS knowledge.  However, there are places out there that will train/certify you in a week without testing requirements.  This may work for the resume but you’ll crash and burn in the interview.  Many places ask for certification but they really want someone who knows how to implement and execute SS.
    Bottom line is the training will definately help you land a job in a company that uses SS. 

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    #80189

    Sigma Guy
    Member

    Brian,
    I am a hiring manager in the Six Sigma/Continuous Improvement field.  Take it from me, Getting Six Sigma Certified is a good thing, however, it is best to go through one of the programs that put you through > 4 weeks of training while requiring a project (or 2) to be completed with REAL dollar savings (as verified by controller and GM).  Independently, I would recommend Six Sigma Academy, as it is chaired by one of the original architects of Six Sigma, Dr. Mikel Harry.  Knowing the tools and material via hands on practice is what make the real difference between the “academic black belt” and the Six Sigma Practitioner.  Providing the bottom line results associated with variation reduction is the true measuring stick. 
    Additionally, getting trained in Lean Manufacturing and practicing those concepts will go hand in hand with Six Sigma and make you even more marketable. 
    Remember, a certification will not land you a better job, only you can do that.  Practice perfect, and practice often! 
    Good Luck.
     

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    #80192

    Brian Thomas
    Participant

    Thanks to you both for your quick responses. I will look into the complete 4 week training programs.Regards,
    BT

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    #80196

    TMC
    Member

    A CQE from ASQ also carries a lot of weight.  This certification has been well respected for many years and will continue to be respected.  The bennifitts of being a green belt or black belt are fading due to the mom and pop quick certification programs that are out their.

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    #80199

    Brian Thomas
    Participant

    Thanks TMc, your answer interests me. Should I still pursue the Black belt program if I find a reputable 4-week course?

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    #80201

    billybob
    Participant

    Hello folks,
    Some may wonder if learning 6S will get them a better job.  Unlike some of us who were told 6S training starts next week, if you’re a team player you’ll be there.  I didn’t say I opposed 6S, just the way it was presented to us.
    Later,
    Billybob

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    #80211

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Brian,
    I’m not sure if anyone explained this to you. The idea behind a breakthrough strategy was not for you to breakthrough to a different job. If your sole (or soul) motivation to do this is because you want to get promoted or find a better job, please find another way to do it. Nobody needs someone with that for motivation in their program. It is about improvement (your employers), serving your customer, and hard work.
    If you just want the training so you have another piece of wall paper for your office and someone is willing to hire you – it would be a good idea to ask yourself about moving to a company which hires people with superficial knowledge.
    I would really like to wish you good luck but that really depends on what you chose.

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    #80225

    Withheld
    Member

    That question cannot be answered without knowing your current job. Whatever the case, expanding your horizons is never a bad idea.

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    #80229

    RT
    Member

    Mike,
    99% of your posts are right on.  But I think you missed Brian’s question “would it make me more viable to to future employers”
    I wish more people would think about taking SS training.  Anyone who is in the engineering field should consider the training as well as people in leadership roles.  The best way to institutionalize SS in a company is to train the leaders. 
    Brian should learn the tools and then take them wherever he goes in his future.  It can only make the SS community stronger.
    I do enjoy reading your posts, your comments are very informative.

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    #80230

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Rt,
    I may have missed his intent and if so I apologize. What we see frequently as we train classes is people who jump into their employers class with no intention of ever doing anything for the company that just paid the bill for training.
    One customer wanted to assure this didn’t happen and had the BB sign a contract that said they would pay the company $67,000 if they left within a year of graduation.
    I really don’t have much tolerance for the pure academic unless they are content to hang out with other academics and leavr the practitioners alone.
    Thanks.

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    #80231

    Fernie
    Participant

    Brian,
    I think expanding your knowledge will definitely help you become more marketeable and vaulable for employers. Just remember, a piece of paper is good, but what really counts is your commitment and practical skill set, so learn and practice the methodology and the rest will come.
    Mike,
    Could you stop being sarcastic for once??
    Best regards,
    Fernie.

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    #80232

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Fernie,
    Neither post was intended to be sarcastic.

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    #80233

    RT
    Member

    Mike,
    I agree, it really bugs me to listen to staff MBB’s talk SS when infact some of them had a poor lowly BB (like me) complete their projects.
    Execution seperates the Men/Women from the Boys/Girls.
     
    Do you have an e-mail address I can contact you by.  I have a tech question I need help with.

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    #80235

    melvin
    Participant

    Brian:
    I found the course to be very difficult because I had no knowledge of statistics. I was fortunate that the vendor I went with used Minitab software which helps tremendously if you don’t have the stat basics to start.
    The other skill the vendor touched on was team management which was fun for me since I had a background in running cross-functional groups.  
    This is not a decision to be taken lightly, it is a difficult effort.
     

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    #80236

    Mike Carnell
    Participant

    Rt,
    I am only speaking for myself but when you are in a consulting role you know what the company has paid to do an implementation. Over the course of a training period you get to know the candidates well enough that you know who is and is not sincere. In most cases there is at least one person in the leadership who is seriously trying to make an impact and to have a person jump in with intentions of leaving right away is really tough on an implementation.
    I understand how you feel because when you see a person get selected as an MBB after you have figured out what their agenda is through the BB training makes it even more difficult to support them as you should (as a consultant). In many cases you can’t even talk the leadership out of putting them into a MBB role.
    The worst part is when they get to another company, they gravitate towards people like themselves so you get this dominoe effect of people with the wrong motivation. I was fortunate enough to spend time with a guy named John Lupienski at Motorola Elma, New York. As good as John is he can go just about anywhere he chooses. Instead he has spent the last 5 yeays driving the facility (along with the plant team) from a 5.2 sigma to a 5.8 sigma. These types of guys are the ones that create the right environment for growing great BB’s.
    I am at @aol.com">SixSigmaAp@aol.com.
    Thanks & good luck.

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